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Right, because the only thing that can stop a bad mass slaughter is, of course, the good mass slaughter - a concept that totally makes sense
I'm largely a pacifist, but yes, the only thing that will stop Israel is overwhelming force.
Regime change. Peaceful would be best.
It's never going to happen.
The only thing that stops this war is if Palestine gets their hands on a nuke. Mutually-assured destruction would force peaceful international intervention.
You think Palestine somehow becoming a nuclear power is more likely than the possibility that a globally condemned far right government that relies on foreign aid would undergo regime change?
Absolutely not.
Neither will happen. This war will continue indefinitely and the same people profiting handsomely off of it now will continue to do so.
They're committing genocide; I don't think killing them is necessarily good, but its moral cost is precisely zero, the value if their lives is not and should not be a cobsideration, and ending them all very quickly would stop the problem.
If you care more about the genociders than the people theyre exterminating literally right now then you are a monster.
The israeli population is not committing genocide, you are just a stinking antisemite. Take your hate somewhere else, loser.
https://archive.is/20250622223902/https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-05-28/ty-article-magazine/.premium/yes-to-transfer-82-of-jewish-israelis-back-expelling-gazans/00000197-12a4-df22-a9d7-9ef6af930000
The link doesn't work and I have yet to see the actual source poll of that screenshot instead of websites reporting on reporting of other websites.
Haaretz, the Israeli newspaper, is the source of that poll. Here’s the original link to the article that discusses it (it’s paywalled, which is probably why it’s so hard to find).
The poll was conducted in May, so the numbers have probably changed a bit, but I totally understand your skepticism. Unfortunately, as an American Jew who is the grandchild of Holocaust survivors, I’ve spent a lot of time in Israel, have Israeli family, and I have no trouble believing these numbers. It’s difficult not to generalize, but based on my personal experiences with my family, as well as talking with Israeli Jews, Israeli Arabs, and Palestinians who live in the occupied territories, there is disgusting widespread hatred against Palestinians and Muslims in general that has been completely normalized across Israeli society. It’s by no means every single person, there are still loads of lefty anti-establishment and anti-Zionist movements, but I have no trouble saying that the majority of Israelis hold abhorrent views about Palestinians. It’s definitely not antisemitic to describe the hatred I’ve witnessed coming from Jews against Palestinians. I can’t even count the number of horrendous things I’ve seen.
Racial slurs are the norm, racial profiling is legal and expected at the entry to every public business, segregation is expected and accepted, Jewish children are taught to hate Palestinians, and every Israeli (with some exceptions) is conscripted into the military, so they are all indoctrinated into a system of state violence.
The person you were responding to seems to think that murder is acceptable in service of a just cause, and I couldn’t disagree more. Murder and violence are never justified, even against those committing them.
I was mostly responding to the comment of "The israeli population is not committing genocide", because as you say, Palestinian dehumanization and hatred is widespread. I do not claim that it's every single person, but it's high enough for me that it's obviously a vanishingly small, practically insignificant minority that isn't supportive of genocide.
I can't think of the last time an oppressed group successfully politely asked their oppressors to stop and had it work.
Diplomacy has been tried repeatedly, and has never been done in good faith by Israel or Zionists. When diplomacy and peaceful protest fails, what other options are left?
Even Colombia's president said that he wants to put together a unified military of the world to stop the genocide by force, and I agree with that notion. It's long past due.
(I am, for the record, Palestinian in diaspora)
How much does Bibi pay you?
It's so telling that the only reason to be against antisemitism that you can fathom is a monetary one. Sadge.