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[–] Imhotep@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Legal game updates as torrents? Is that a thing?

[–] retro 26 points 2 days ago

Humble Bundle distributes their DRM-free games and other content via BitTorrent.

[–] qupada@fedia.io 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I know WoW used bittorrent for game updates, it was built in and was the "standard" download mechanism.

https://worldofwarcraft.fandom.com/et/wiki/Blizzard_Downloader

I'm sure it's far from the only game that did.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Spotify got its start by distributing its music files peer-to-peer as well.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 3 points 2 days ago

Embrace Extend Extinguish. Maybe they shouldn't have in the end

[–] Imhotep@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Interesting! Thanks

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago

Even Windows Update has a peer-to-peer option.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Valve hired the creator of Bittorrent to design Steam.

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Bram Cohen. He also created a crypto protocol called Chia, which is interesting. The idea was to create a green (ish) crypto that would leverage existing resources, in this case old storage drives. So it uses "proof of space" rather than "proof of work". The "plotter" (as opposed to computationally intensive GPU/CPU "mining") fills up your storage space with "plots", randomly generated data files ~100gb each. To earn crypto, it's basically a lottery against your plots. The network gives you a random hash, and if it matches one of your plot files, you get rewarded with a token. Very low power, keeps old storage out of landfill a while longer, and once those plots are initially made, they're good to go forever - they can "win" more than once, so the more energy-intensive process of plotting (though it's still nowhere near the consumption of proof-of-work, which is a disaster) has a natural upper limit of your total storage space.

The difficult bit is creating the plots, it takes hours to days to create one, depending on your write speed. I put my fastest storage on that, a specialised PCIe nvme SSD. I think I was able to bang out a plot every couple hours eventually, then I would offload it to a somewhat monstrous storage server with the maximum number of drives the motherboard would support. Others in the community created massive RAM drives. Very expensive, but super duper fast.

I plotted for a while, but cashed out when it stopped making sense economically. Eventually, the price per terabyte of storage + electricity eclipsed any significant gains. Did a lot of scavenging, haunting thrift shops, and trading up for higher storage capacity on eBay. Actually made a few grand of pure profit before the price settled down, and difficulty increased. That was the most fun I've ever had with crypto. Besides all the storage, cables and hubs, I built my "farm" solely from stuff I already had laying around. I even made a profit selling all the drives back, as this project singlehandedly pulled almost all the slack out of the used storage market. It kept a lot of equipment out of the landfill for much longer than usual, which is pretty neat.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What happens if the price of Chia goes up enough to exhaust the supply of unused old hard drives? Bitcoin used to only consume spare CPU cycles too.

It's shifting costs from energy to hardware - greenwashing the blockchain/AI/whatever when the real solution is time-tested pigouvian taxes on the external cost of pollution.

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

That happened early on in the cycle, and it happened only once. Partly because those looking to sell did so once the coin became tradable, then the price took a nosedive and started to stabilize. Once the pressure was released, and those looking for profits exited, it didn't have the same cycles of mania as Bitcoin and the others. Further down the line, applications were built on top of the chia blockchain. It's pretty boring as cryptos go, which is a good thing.

[–] asmoranomar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Back in the day FFXIV 1.0 distributed updates via torrent iirc.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

League of Legends used to, don’t know if they still do. There was a setting in the patcher to turn p2p off.