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There was a massive, expensive disinformation campaign coupled with every legal, semi-legal and frequently illegal barrier to voting that the republicans and their allies could bring to bear.
Calling people assholes because the rich invested hordes of time and wealth into driving down turnout doesn't make much sense to me.
Blame the rich fascists for pursuing this, dont blame people just because they live in a system where this is possible.
How many people did you drive to the polls?
Are you aware we never got the ballot rejection rates like we normally do for elections? Trumpers had massive efforts in trying to have ballots challenged and rejected, particularly for signatures not perfectly matching on the ballot vs a driver's license on the absentee/mail in ballots. There's also Rockland County election lawsuit. Idk that he actually won.
It's entirely possible the ballots you sent in got rejected, unfortunately.
Polls had Kamala ahead. The guy who owns Polymarket is in bed with Trump and that could've been a money making scheme/scam re: bets.
Additionally, Dominion voting machines were just bought by a Trump group, Liberty Vote.
https://www.npr.org/2025/10/09/nx-s1-5569817/dominion-voting-liberty-vote-false-claims
I never said it was actionable, although we certainly need to be aware of it for future elections. I'm saying your hatred at society is perhaps misplaced somewhat, because there's clues that he did indeed steal some votes.
It doesn't help Trump to point this out, or Trump would be yelling it from the rooftops.
No, it was and is my genuine impression that polls had Kamala leading slightly, at least right before the election. I didn't watch the polls before that because it isn't "actionable."
I'm aware of the electoral college issue, that doesn't change the original sentiment that all of America deserves vitriol when it's possible many were disenfranchised.
They reported Trump odds as higher because their buddies were betting on him because they had insider knowledge. Elon paid over $100million for an online astroturfing organization and to siphon money from Dems, you don't think he was placing multiple million dollar bets knowing the election interference they had? I know how bets work. I also know how cheating on bets work. Every gambler is aware of cheating and assumes cheating. The entire Polymarket situation is suspicious. That they flooded other betting markets when their edge went down from their own bet volume is expected.
Anyway, polls and bets aren't proof that he didn't steal the election - the court cases and defunded the election security teams including the ballot rejection rates is. And disenfranchisement matters, and has for decades, it's civil rights 101.
The truth matters even if you don't immediately come up with an idea to act on it.
Ignoring votes being stolen in Trump's favor helps him. Refusing to point out issues that benefit him and disenfranchise people helps him.
Everyone should vote, no one is saying not to vote. In fact, being upset about disenfranchisement addresses a lack of votes directly. It's motivation to have fair elections.
This attitude is a gift to fascists. Save your scorn for the nazis who were able to subvert our shitty electoral system.