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[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Correct me if I’m wrong, but he doesn’t need to negotiate with Democrats. Republicans have the majority and could pass it on their own if it was reasonable.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 3 months ago (4 children)

You are incorrect. Reps hold a majority, but not a supermajority. They would need sixty votes to pass a budget and end the shutdown, and only hold fifty three seats.

[–] cmac@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Can't the Senate pass it under the budget reconciliation process with a simple majority?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 2 months ago

they used it for the BBB, of which the current news cycle is distracting it from.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

...but they only get to use that card once, and they already burned it.

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They could also remove the filibuster

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How does that get them more votes?

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

They can then pass this with a simple majority.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

I believe there is a limit to the number of times they can use the reconciliation process between doing the current process.

[–] homura1650@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

They could, however, change the procedural rules that require 60 votes with a simple majority.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

the gop is so short sighted, they wanted a shutdown but dint have enough seats to end it, meaning its a impulsive thing.

[–] fodderoh@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes and no. That is true in the House. And the Republicans have passed a version of the bill in the House. The Senate, OTOH, requires 60 votes for a measure to pass. So they need at least 7 votes from non-GOP members to pass anything.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The article is about Mike Johnson and the house.

[–] fodderoh@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In the narrowest reading of the article, maybe. But as I said the House already passed their bill. It is in the Senate's hands now. But since the Senate requires a supermajority, they need some level of Dem support to pass it. And since anything the Senate passes would have to go back to the House for reconciliation, House leadership is very much involved in those negotiations (or lack thereof) since they would have to line up support in their own chamber. And that is what the article is talking about. Not just the House, but the negotiations as a whole and Johnson's part in it. (Or refusal to participate as seems to be the case.)

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

isnt MTG also voting against him, ?

[–] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago

He has the votes to pass it in the house, it's more so the senate Republicans who have to negotiate with the senate Democrats to pass it.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

yes, but they need a narrative to not be the ones at fault for shutting it down.