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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

To be historically correct, the nazis were not fascists

Incorrect. Nazism is a form of fascism. They're not mutually exclusive any more than either is with the even broader category 'right wing politics ".

The italians with Mussolini were fascists

The original ones, yeah, but nowhere near the only ones.

Hitler and other later fascists (including the ones currently in charge of the US government) basically built their own variant of the same basic recipe

Hitler wanted so hard to be a fascist, a bit like donald wants to be putin.

All three are (were in the case of Hitler and hopefully all of them soon) fascists, just different flavors.

[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago

Basically, nazism is fascism with fervent antisemitism and "scientific racism".

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I agree to it all except hitler wasn't a pure fascist because he couldn't take over the german companies and so on. It's nitpicking ofc. but as evil as they both were there are differences.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

hitler wasn't a pure fascist

Again, that's not how fascism works. It doesn't have to be a carbon copy of the original Mussolini fascism in order to be fascism.

as evil as they both were there are differences.

Yes, but the similarities are such that they still both fit into the basic category of fascism.

It's nitpicking ofc

That, and a misunderstanding of what constitutes fascism.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It fits todays definition of fashism.

Not the one in the 1920-30-40, that was why I said "historically".

I don't disagree with you.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago

They were absolutely considered, and often called, fascists back then. Especially during the war.