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[–] DeadMartyr@lemmy.zip 38 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I think removing everything that kids have a bit of a hard time trying to grasp just teaches kids to give up if anything isn't immediately apparent. Its not as much of a waste of time as cursive, and it's to be taught to think in another way.

I think that kids "learning how to learn" is really important, especially with how these AI models are stunting like a whole generation of people.

This is minor, but I also think less things need electronic displays/components that are hard to recycle and increase dependency on exploiting X country for Y resource. Its also cool to just be able to build a physical mechanism which digital clocks have no real feasible option to do

[–] tooclose104@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just found out my 10yo has been lagging behind in spelling because he's been using speech-to-text on his school issued iPad for class work. He doesn't have to think about it or try sounding it out, so of course an unpracticed in-development skill is waning. It's going to be an interesting parent-teacher meeting coming up.

Is it a feature you can disable on the iPad? I never considered that kids would be doing that. My spelling was never great but I just always chalked it up to the way my brain worked. Even when I spent a couple years in college spending most of my free time reading books both to myself and our loud to my partner I still didn't remember how certain words were spelt because I often didn't write them. If I never wrote them as you are saying I imagine it would have been much worse.

[–] juliebean@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Its also cool to just be able to build a physical mechanism which digital clocks have no real feasible option to do

i am delighted to be able to introduce you to flip clocks.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I would rather learn how to build an analog clock. In the olden days clock makers were highly respected & incredibly intelligent, it's quite an intellectual & mechanical art & science & craft to build an analog clock.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

I love flip clocks

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cursive is wayyyy more accessible for lots of people with chronic pain in their arm/hand/wrist. Also helps prevent those conditions for those who have do a lot of hand writing. I dread the day that people will no longer be able to read the least painful way to write or me.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If I'm honest with myself my handwriting was always shit. If I was writing you a letter you'd be able to read it, but taking notes in college was all but useless for me. The speed at which you would have to write left me unable to find any of it legible so I was able to take in more information by just sitting down and listening/watching instead of scrambling to figure out what they were talking about now after I wrote down whatever I thought was important prior to that. Professors write fast because they do it all the time, and the amount of time it would take me to read then write what they wrote would overlap the time they spent over the next 15 seconds telling you why it was important. If I wrote down why it's important I'm behind on the next bit of information and scrambling. When a professor posted their notes online so I could review it that way it was so much easier for me. (Makes note taking way easier)

[–] Enekk@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What's interesting about this is that we are not taught how to take notes. People used to have classes that taught what is actually a complicated skill. I have gone through enough schooling that my note taking just happens without much thought, but it took me real effort to get there.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

and I yet I had a class in note taking and then years latter got points taken off because I didn't take like that teacher wanted

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why the fuck would your notes be any of the teacher's business?

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I don't know bit it really pissed me off

I had a couple teachers try to spend a single class about note taking but I think note taking is different for everyone, much like learning styles. Telling someone to skip a,b, and ,c and just write d because they view it as the important information only works for people who think exactly how they think. So I would try something like that and would end up with.

1974 - congress - didn't pass till 1980.

That means nothing to someone unless they know more context, which the context clues in my experience are tied to someone's individual thought processes. In this case it would be mentions of maybe reconciliation process, simple majority, and budget. But for others it could be other things.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

We should make everyone mad. Don't teach them to read analog clocks. Teach them to read digital clocks and sundials.

[–] Mickey7@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It is minor but part of a bigger problem. Show them a globe and ask them to point our where Austria is and then ask them where Australia is. Most couldn't do it. And many wouldn't even know the difference

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Learning how to write with a pen is a waste of time..?

[–] DeadMartyr@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Cursive is good for some people because arthritis, but most people do not use cursive aside from their signature.

I spent a good chunk of 1st and 2nd grade learning it so I can read it but it really did not teach me anything. It's not like learning a new way of thinking, it's just muscle memory and practice.

I'm not saying learning how to write is a waste of time, I write alot and while its typing now, I definitely needed to learn to use a pencil. But cursive is like learning how to type on a Devorak(?) keyboard