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In this video, I reveal why Microsoft ended Windows 10 support in October 2025? The answer is simple: they want to rob you of your digital sovereignty. They won't be happy until each and every one ...

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[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 66 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Done, running mint now. Switch was easy, machine performance improved without that bullshit telemetry running.

[–] Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Mint is pretty... Uhh... Mint.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Im not sure why eveyone keeps blindly recommending mint, yeah it works great if you only do document editing and web browsing but it kinda undersells Linux.

[–] Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's very easy to jump into (coming from Windows), and it comes with a lot of game compatibility.

The only reason I switched to SteamOS was because Yad was very outdated on Mint and every attempt I made failed. The dependency list to attempt to upgrade it was also pretty substantial.

[–] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wait, is SteamOS officially a thing you can install on otger devices than the Steamdeck?

[–] Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Although it's not considered officially supported, you can absolutely install it on your PC. It's been working great for me. The only hangup was disabling read-only mode for editing the OS and changing the default boot up behavior (start in desktop, not big screen mode). Other than those two things, it's pretty much been plug and play.

[–] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago

Ohhh, interesting!

Yeah I also dont get that either, what exactly makes it so easy to switch over? If anything having a UI so close to Windows just makes it frustrating when not everything is identical.

[–] whosepoopisonmybuttocks@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Honest question: I've been using mint relatively pain-free for a little while now. What am I missing out on?

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 4 days ago (3 children)

There are a few key things I would argue you're missing out on:

  1. Up to date software: Mint is pretty out of date and the desktop is severely oudated
  2. A modern interface built on modern software: Specifically im referring to Wayland (which effects multiple monitor setups, VRR, gestures, HDR, and scaling)
  3. Functionality: Following Windows in terms of functionality is a massive limitation, it holds back what could be to what already is. KDE and Gnome are implementing runners (search based application launcher), gestures, widgets, extensions, and advanced shortcuts (cosmic even has tiling).
  4. Design philosophy: Windows is absolutely not the pinnacle of good design and Cinnamon takes it to the next step by looking like Windows 7 but with XP level blurry icons. Once again its clearly they're restricted not just by Microsoft standards but outdated Microsoft standards.
[–] ysjet@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)
  1. Very true
  2. Wayland still has a lot of problems to iron out, and that's not something that will fly with most people as a Windows replacement.
  3. KDE and Gnome are bloated messes that have 29394 ways of doing anything, but not everything, which causes frustration in new migrants. They don't want 12 different apps that each can do 70% of the possible options- they want one app that can do 100% (and isn't terminal). Familiarity with windows is also a plus to them, as a migrant.
  4. Again, familiarity is a good thing for a migrant.

You're looking at it from the perspective of 'is this the distro that has things I want' which is, not to be rude, completely useless to the person actually migrating from windows.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

All those things are nice for people who care about them. For people who just want their computer to work with minimal hassle, Mint is a great option.

[–] ysjet@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago
[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Quite frankly if Wayland isnt good enough now it never will be, also Gnome and KDE both objectively have more GUI apps than Cinnamon.

[–] ysjet@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

I still have daily issues with Wayland on Bazzite, so yikes.

Also, that's my point- Cinnamon has one way to do it, and the doco all reflects that. GNOME/KDE each have 50, and the documentation tells you to use one app for this, another app for that, a third app for the other- it's all kind of a mess for a new user that just wants their OS to stop being a barrier for whatever they want to do.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
  1. Not usually a problem for most people, and flatpaks are built into the very slick and reliable GUI store to access newer versions.
  2. Legitimate issue for people who need those features, though the Wayland cinnamon session is making good progress.
  3. Those are fairly advanced features that most average users won't take advantage of. Cinnamon actually has pretty fantastic widgets/extensions.
  4. Having a familiar windows-like interface is an advantage for first time users, making the transition far smoother. Different paradigms can be explored after they are comfortable with Linux.

For people dipping their toes into Linux, mint still has everyone beat. No other distro has such a polished onboarding experience, which already experienced Linux users tend to overlook.

  1. The welcome screen perfectly walks new users getting their system set up and usable, in particular it makes the GUI driver installer front and center to avoid Nvidia users trying to install the driver from the Nvidia website.
  2. The polish and stability of the updater tool and GUI store are not to be underestimated. KDE's discover is clunky and Gnome's software store is extremely slow in comparison.
  3. Every common use case is covered out of the box. There will be no hunting for codecs, filesystem support, firewall, samba, etc, which can be a problem on other other distro like Debian, Fedora, or Opensuse.
  4. Maintainence is simple, updates aren't super frequent (important on internet limited areas), guides written for a newbie perspective are plentiful, most commercial software not in the repos will offer a simple .deb installer package.

All of those things are critical to not burning a new user, and so far nothing has approached Mint's mastery of onboarding, IMHO.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I was a long time mint user. And I loved it for a couple of years.

But cinnamon just doesn't really do it for me anymore. I've been using fedora kde for a bit and while it's alright, I had issues with really shitty frame rates in like every game with my nvidia card. I think kubuntu may be my new seeet spot soon.

Although opensuse does seem very interesting too. I should give that a go.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I can personally confirm OpenSuse is absolutely amazing, you get the advantage of bleeding edge with a reasonable amount of stability. Granted the themeing is a bit opinionated (if you love green you'll love it) but you can always change that. Also lots of amazing GUI and TUI tools, they look kinda outdated but function very well.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Here I go installing distros again. Sigh.

One thing I've always disliked about linux as a consumer are the countless versions and the new flavors that seem to come out every few years. I don't want to rediscover the wheel constantly or find my version has been abandoned by developers.

[–] rapchee@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

i've used mint for a few years, my first daily driver distro, mostly gaming, i've played through hl:alyx, for example, yes, in vr, on linux, without much linux knowledge
now im on pop, i did a bunch of things to mint i didn't understand, and it kind of broke, well, the gaming performance degraded, so i tried pop after, and i like it slightly better, so i've been using it since, 3-4 years i think.
just to say, hard disagree on the "only docs and browsings" comment

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I would never recommend it, but I won’t begrudge anyone Mint. As much as I loathe Cinnamon, it’s still a better choice than Ubuntu. Newcomers could do much worse.

I still recommend Bazzite first and Fedora second. They always “just work” and even Mint has hardware support problems sometimes, especially on newer hardware.

And happy cake day!

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Making that bootable USB was a pain. Needed a program to check the ISO. Download more files to check it against. Another program to mount it. Another program because the first doesn't do Linux iso. MBR or GPT, didn't even know about that.

[–] CubitOom 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Checkout ventoy. It can be used as a multiboot disk so you can try a bunch of distros or have backups of prior releases or even have testing/recovery images like clonezilla or memtest.

MBR is older and might be more compatible with older computers it wouldn't cause any problems, GPT is newer and if your computer was built in the last 10 years you might as well use it.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter anymore since I installed Mint, which btw formatted my drive to GPT afaik.

[–] CubitOom 2 points 4 days ago

Like I said, it's still useful for other tools and recovery.

Enjoy Linux.

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I discovered Ventoy a couple of months back, and spent far too long trying to work out how to use it to carry portable installations of both Kubuntu and Windows. But nope, can't be done (so far as I can tell). Which is a shame, but hey ho.

But yeah, for carrying around installers it's absolutely bang on.

[–] CubitOom 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Sorry to hear you had issues using it that way but it's totally possible and I have a windows 10 ISO on my Ventoy multiboot right now. Almost any ISO file should work in Ventoy assuming its a bootable ISO.

Maybe your issue was you didn't use UEFI which windows might require?

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As in you have a fully operational Windows installation that you can boot into, alongside another fully bootable OS?

Because that would be incredibly useful, but I was damned if could work it out.

[–] CubitOom 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have a multiboot with many bootable ISOs.

Meaning if I want to boot into windows or Ubuntu installation media, I can. This can be used to recover an install or start a new install.

Most Linux install isos are live images that will let you use it like an ephemeral computer, but windows install isos don't do that.

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago

Hmm, I'll have to dig back into it, figure out where I went wrong.