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    [–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Just give me nano, I can't be bothered to fuck with emacs or vim.

    [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)
    [–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

    Thanks, I'll check it out

    Edit: did I just fall for an si prefix joke?

    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    The SI prefix thing stems from a joke anyway. Allow me to trot out the etymology again:

    Once upon a time in the 1980s, there was created a program for reading ELectronic Mail called Elm.

    Someone created a rival mail reader called Pine, which followed both the tree pun as well as the fact it was a recursive acronym: "Pine is not Elm".

    Pine had an editor called the Pine Composer or Pico for short. Pico is both a typographical term as well as an SI unit. They may have been going for both. Too perfect a pun to pass up, perhaps.

    Due to licensing uncertainty, someone else created a from-scratch clone of Pico called Nano, cementing the continuation of puns, but in the SI direction.

    And then apparently someone else has decided to get on the bandwagon with Micro.

    [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    There's a similar trend in the emulator world, it's great. Usually a result of forks though: https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Main_Page

    [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

    It's a joke, but it's a real editor

    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    At the risk of invoking the ire of two communities, why shouldn't we think of Micro as Emacs but with Lua instead of Lisp?

    [–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I don't know how Micro works, and I don't actually use emacs day to day, but as I understand it emacs works a bit like:

    • When you press a key in emacs it invokes a Lisp function that takes as arguments the text buffer that has focus, the parameters of the 'window' into that buffer, and the cursor position in that window.
    • This is the case for any key you press in any context, even for typing normal letters.
    • A 'mode' in emacs is a set of bindings which associate specific keys with specific functions.
    • 'modes' can be stacked on top of each other, with higher modes being able to intercept key presses before they reach lower modes, and changes / manipulate lower modes (I think?)
    • All of the editor's functionality, such as 'search' or 'undo', is implemented in that way.
    • All of this is completely customizable, so pressing a key combo can be made to do virtually anything or manipulate the rest of the editor's systems in any way.

    Does Micro work anything like that?

    [–] flamingos@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    A β€˜mode’ in emacs is a set of bindings which associate specific keys with specific functions.

    Not quite, a mode is basically a lisp function defined with a different macro that integrates it into the various systems (like showing up in the modeline when active). It can do basically anything, including setting keybinds.

    β€˜modes’ can be stacked on top of each other, with higher modes being able to intercept key presses before they reach lower modes, and changes / manipulate lower modes (I think?)

    No, a keybind can only run one function and what that function is is whatever last defined a binding for that key. Like, if one mode defines a key to be something and you activate another that also binds that key, the latter takes over.

    Emacs does have something like you describe, where functions can be 'advised'.

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    One thing that irks me a lot is that you save in nano with ^O why!? How does O relates to saving?

    [–] b34k@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

    I want push my updates from volatile memory out to long term storage.

    I always saw the O as output.

    [–] cepelinas@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

    I just save ny exiting ctrl+x

    It makes the previous version obsolete

    Yeah, that is probably my biggest gripe with nano as well.

    [–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

    On one hand autocompletion is nice when I want to use a language instead of learning it.

    On the other hand I am in the middle of my learning phase.