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[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

it's worse than that, you should probably take number of adults (as in, 18+) as base here, and it's 78% of them (267M), according to first random source i've found, so it's closer to 34%

from what i understand, american anomaly is that they take debt like that even when not strictly necessary in order to pump up their credit scores which might be useful later, but even then, 9% of population relies on going to loan shark the app in order to get food, absolutely nothing to look at here, move along,

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 3 days ago

it’s worse than that, you should probably take number of adults (as in, 18+) as base here, and it’s 78% of them (267M), according to first random source i’ve found, so it’s closer to 34%

yep, entirely correct. and the numbers will also only reflect for those that are loantakers/account holders (which implies an even smaller number), because only one person needs to take out the bnpl to groceries it up for family support

I just didn't have the time to dig into the numbers properly this morning when I posted

it's all bad. just every single fucking part.

[–] mirrorwitch@awful.systems 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

And most stats are flying under the radar because the Trump administration has made it impossible to get reliable data on things. But at least we live in a rational market system that optimally allocates resources, so I'm sure the decision-makers will handle this situation wisely and—

Not wanting to be left behind, more established finance companies are racing toward BNPL now, too … What started as a niche checkout option is becoming embedded financial infrastructure.

Morris sees this shift happening everywhere. “When I talk to some of these software companies that are now embedding payments, lending and insurance,” he told me, “and you say, ‘Okay, five years from now, where are you going to make your money?’” the answer surprises even veteran investors like him. “They say, ‘You know what, I think I’m going to make more money in embedded finance than I am in my core software.’”

Continued Morris: “It starts off as a nice little add-on, but when the powers of the marketplace drive down the returns in the core business, it’s often these financing businesses that have the greatest longevity and market power.

"I've made a self-licking lollipop so the fun times will never end and I see no way this could ever go wrong."