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3rd-person shooters optimized for controllers? (piefed.social)

submitted 3 days ago by mohab@piefed.social to c/patientgamers@sh.itjust.works

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I don't feel comfortable using a mouse and I have no interest in working on my mouse skills. I play all of my games with either a controller or a keyboard, and I'm looking for 3rd-person shooters I can play with a controller.

I'm mainly interested in action games. I'm OK with a world with gated areas a la metroidvanias/soulslikes, but I'm not interested in full-on open world or narrative-driven games.

Examples of 3rd-person shooters I enjoyed playing with a controller: Gungrave, Vanquish, and Evil West.

Examples of 3rd-person shooters I don't enjoy and have no interest in: Uncharted, The Last of Us, Red Dead Redemption, Dead Space, Control/Alan Wake, or GTA.

I mainly play on PC, Steam in particular, but I'll boot up emulators if the game is worth it.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure that Wolfenstein 3D had mouse support, unless it was added later, and I'm sure that (original) Doom did.

checks

https://soulsphere.org/apocrypha/keyboard/

Debunking the Myth that Doom was Keyboard-only

It also mentions Wolfenstein 3D:

I don't know if I used the mouse with Wolfenstein 3D when it first came out. But I recall playing the Mac port later with a mouse, and that it didn't feel great there.

[–] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Doom could be played with a mouse, but it was made for the keyboard. Because of the only horizontal freedom of turning, the mouse was just uncomfortable.

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I suppose it depends on perspective, but I feel like if John Romero says it was made with mouse controls intended as the default, he's probably right, as he would be one of the few people to know what they had in mind when making it.

[–] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Are you sure you're not talking about Quake? Because Quake, while perfectly playable with the keyboard only, can get some nice usability nuances from the mouse.

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Did you miss the screenshot of JOHN ROMERO, the man himself, saying that Wolf3D and Doom were made for mouse input?

[–] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I did. I have no idea what screenshot you're talking about.

Anyway, even if he told something like that, the keyboard-only input was more convenient for Wolf3d and Doom 1-2.

[–] PuddleOfKittens@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Here's a transcript of the image (typed out):

(layout of a tweet, with a profile pic and blue checkmark etc)
John Romero
@romero
Replying to @fullbright @fullbright @ADAMATOMIC @ID_AA_Carmack : DOOM was made for mouse input, so was Wolf 3D. Keen was expected to use keyboard.

3:11 PM - 2 Jun 2014 from Los Gatos, CA

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You didn't see this? https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/f41cda96-f506-431c-804f-708e96b24138.png

https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/f41cda96-f506-431c-804f-708e96b24138.png

It was in the previous comment, so maybe something weird with your client or something