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If it's real life, just talk to them.
If it's online, especially here on lemmy, there's a lot of AI brain rotted people who are just going to copy/paste your comments into a chatbot and you're wasting time.
They also tend to follow you around.
They've lost so much of their brains to AI, that even valid criticism of AI feel like personal insults to them.
That's the issue. I do wish to warn me or even just inform them of what using AI recklessly could lead to.
Why care?
You're wanting to go out and argue with people and try to use logic when that part of their brain has literally atrophied.
It's not going to accomplish anything, and likely just drive them deeper into AI.
Plenty of people that need help actually want it, put your energy towards that if you want to help people.
To give some fucks, probably.
The post is aimed at me facing situations where I state among people I know that I don't use AI, followed by them asking why not. Instead of driving them out by stating "Just because" or get into jargons that are completely unbeknownst to them, I wish to properly inform them why I have made this decision and why they should too.
I am also able to identify people to whom there's no point discussing this. I'm not asking to convince them too.
You're asking how to verbalize why you don't like AI, but you won't say why you don't like AI...
Let's see if this helps, imagine someone asks you:
How the absolute fuck would you know how to explain it when you don't know why they don't like pizza?
You do have a point. I think I may be overthinking this after all. I'll just try to talk with them about this upfront.
More likely they feel insulted by people saying how "brain-rotted" they are.
What would the inoffensive way of phrasing it be?
Genuinely every single pro-AI person I’ve spoken with both irl and online has been clearly struggling cognitively. It’s like 10x worse than the effects of basic social media addiction. People also appear to actively change for the worse if they get conned into adopting it. Brain rot is apparently a symptom of AI use as literally as tooth rot is a symptom of smoking.
Speaking of smoking and vaping, on top of being bad for you objectively, it’s lame and gross. Now that that narrative is firmly established we have actually started seeing youth nicotine use decline rapidly again, just like it was before vaping became a thing
...and then you proceed to spend the next two paragraphs continuing to rant about how mentally deficient you think AI users are.
Not that, for starters.
The lung capacity of smokers is deficient, yes? Is the mere fact offensive? Should we just not talk about how someone struggling to breathe as they walk up stairs is the direct result of their smoking?
This is literally begging the question.
I don’t think it is, nor do I think name dropping random fallacies without engaging with the topic makes for particularly good conversation. If you have issues with OP’s phrasing it would benefit all of us moving forward if we found a better way to talk about it, yes?
It's not a random fallacy, it's the one you're engaging in. Look it up. Your analogy presupposes an answer to the question that is actually at hand. It's the classic "have you stopped beating your wife" situation.
I am intimately familiar with the fallacy. You don’t know how to apply it. I have presupposed nothing.
You can see very clearly from the structure of my post that the brain rot I am referring to is established via anecdote. It is my direct experience. This is obviously low quality evidence by itself for the establishment of my conclusion as a broader fact, and we could absolutely go down that road and start linking to the actual cognitive decline studies if you wanted
But my ‘argument’ is simply not structured as a begging the question fallacy. I am literally saying that I have personally observed that all AI users I encounter are “wife beaters”, and am proceeding with my analogy from there
“Given that we have identified a group of wife beaters, and you dislike the term ‘wife beater’, how can we better phrase it to improve domestic abuse interventions?” Does not become a begging the question fallacy just because you disagree with the initial classification of who is a wife beater
You wrote:
By using this analogy for the "brain rot" you claim comes from AI use, you are presupposing that it actually happens. You're putting as much confidence in that as there is in the well-established but completely unrelated effect of smoking on lung capacity.
Ultimately, what this whole exchange boils down to:
How useful.
You are factually incorrect, willfully ignoring my point, and you don’t even appear to know who you’re talking to, confusing me with an above poster in this conversation.
Your misattribution of a specific fallacy as well as your refusal to engage in the actual topic will endure as a mark of shame against you, and I will add you as yet another example in the list of pro-AI outcomes I have observed. Cheers
Yup, that's dbzer0
Edit: shit, they followed me here
I paste people's AI questions into a chatbot for the humor of it.