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‘But there is a difference between recognising AI use and proving its use. So I tried an experiment. … I received 122 paper submissions. Of those, the Trojan horse easily identified 33 AI-generated papers. I sent these stats to all the students and gave them the opportunity to admit to using AI before they were locked into failing the class. Another 14 outed themselves. In other words, nearly 39% of the submissions were at least partially written by AI.‘

Article archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20251125225915/https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/set-trap-to-catch-students-cheating-ai_uk_691f20d1e4b00ed8a94f4c01

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[–] guillem@aussie.zone 43 points 2 days ago (5 children)

*Words, phrases and punctuation rarely used by the average college student – or anyone for that matter (em dash included) – are pervasive. *

Hey, fuck you too >:(

[–] AugustWest@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This quote is particularly amusing because the author used en dashes where he should have used em dashes, while making a point about how no one uses em dashes.

[–] FanciestPants@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Damn, I finally had to go learn what the em dash is, and by contrast what the en dash is. Your comment will haunt me to the end of my days.

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And you don’t put spaces around em or en dashes.

[–] AugustWest@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

It’s not a hard rule unless you’re using a hard format like Chicago, MLA, or APA format. In the US it’s common to not use spaces, but in the UK and some parts of Europe it’s common to use spaces for em dashes and en dashes if they are being used to denote parentheticals.

Edit: I just noticed this article is hosted on HuffPost UK. If you go look at the US version of the site, it uses em dashes. In the UK it is becoming common to use en dashes in place of em dashes for parentheticals. Though even in the US version there are spaces, so it’s still not a clean comparison.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Doesn't MS word automatically change a regular dash to an em dash if there's a space on either side and you keep typing the sentence?

Wonder how many false positives that's caused.

[–] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah it sure does, as does outlook.

[–] canofcam@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The em dash used in MS word is different to the one used by ChatGPT as far as I can tell, it looks more like the en dash used by GPT.

[–] pleaseletmein@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like I have to train myself out of using em dashes in my writing now to avoid being mistaken for AI, and it sucks.

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I sometimes use different dilimiters [you know, like "(" {or also "[" or "(" (as they are used in programming -- since the em dash is essentially one of these, just with the added benefit of giving you a breath for thinking --)}].

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I use the en dash – often mistaken for an em dash — quite regularly but I think it can be legitimately used to get a hunch, and he then got proof via hidden prompt injection and student confessions.

[–] kinther@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I use a dash all the fucking time - it proves a point and keeps the train of thought going

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

That's a regular dash. The em dash is longer.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm going to need to see you passing a capcha test

Oh fuck don't tell jhex but dogs and bicycles look the same to me

[–] oyo@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

I think AI would be better at captchas than me.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The dash you used is neither an en dash nor an em dash. It's a regular dash, which is much more commonly used since it's on a standard keyboard