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[–] SARGE@startrek.website 61 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

As someone who tries to eat less meat in general because climate change and cows are basically giant grass eating slightly smellier dogs, I cannot take anyone who unironically uses "carnist" and "bloodmouth" seriously from that point on.

The more names you use to describe "person who eats meat" that you think are insulting and derogatory, the more people roll their eyes and move on with their planned meal.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 hours ago

Also when they add extraneous hyperbole to invalidate themselves.

No, there's nothing sweet or savory about rotting meat, but it isn't rotting, now is it?People that eat meat do not eat rotting carcasses (RFK aside) the same way vegans don't eat rotten vegetables.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 7 points 5 hours ago

Yeah I'm basically in the same boat. I call myself a half assed vegetarian - I don't typically buy meat for myself but if I go somewhere and meat's already been ordered I won't make a big fuss. I think meat is bad for the environment and cruel to the animals, and want people to care more about that, but it's an emotional issue that needs to be handled as such.

It is annoying that some people are so emotionally invested in meat that it's a hot button triggering topic, but that's how it is.

Some left wing people will call the USA like "burgerland" or "ameriKKKa" and I'm just like that's not going to win any converts. People who aren't already firmly in your camp are going to stop listening.

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 8 hours ago

if you're very passionate about something it's easy to use strong words, and i think while it's annoying to me it's generally acceptable if used like this. I can't personally develop any strong feelings about vegetarianism or veganism, but I've had my passionate political moments in my life (and still do sometimes) and I guess it's kind of respect worthy, at least when I myself can see the logic of the argument or even agree to an extent.

Used to be I would get pretty frenzied when confronted with what I could fathom about capitalism, so I can empathize.

[–] thedarkfly@feddit.nl -5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

"Bloodmouth" is clearly trying to be a slur (although it's the first time I see the term). "Carnist" however is just a neologism with meaning "someone who eats meat as part of their alimentation".

Words exist to convey meaning, that's all. Now vegans or vegetarians can be aggressive towards carnists, that's for sure. Nothing to do with vocabulary.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Vocabulary has a lot to do with it, no one wants to be called a slur and they use carnist as a slur

[–] thedarkfly@feddit.nl 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Then what word would you like people to use for "person eating meat as part of their alimentation"? I ask in good faith, I'm really curious to know your opinion.

I don't think that "meat-eater" is necessarily better than "carnist" 😕 Or a negative like "non-vegeterian"? A bit of a mouthful.

[–] sucius@lemmy.world 1 points 34 minutes ago

Omnivore is pretty neutral