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Hey Hillary, do you know what I’d like to hear from you?
Nothing. Absolutely fucking nothing. You fucking lost to the fascist the first time around and paved the way for his ascent to power. You are a HUGE fucking factor in how we got to where we are now.
She is a fascist herself who led the unilateral intervention on Libya that lead to the unnecessary deaths of 50k people in a civil war that didn't need to happen, architected the pivot to Asia which will lead to WW3, and used "promoted" LGBT rights internationally in a way that got LGBT people thrown under the bus world wide as a side effect of resisting American imperial power.
I've said it all through out her run in 2016.
Shes not a democrat.
Shes not a liberal.
Shes just a Republican in a blue coat.
But it was her turn! Damnit, she was going to run regardless of how unpopular she was.
It's like the end of Happy Gilmore when Shooter McGavin grabs the jacket because it was his turn, he felt it was owed to him.
Probably wouldnt have trump today if it wasnt for the DNC sabotaging all the popular candidates to shove hilary down our throats.
No one wanted hilary.
and remember, Trump didnt even want to win. He just wanted to use running as a springboard for more attention. He was, by all accounts, upset with his intitial win because of how he felt he'd be restricted by the white house.. granted all thats long since been gone since he learned how to manipulate the office to his favor (especially with charging the SS 4x more than anyone else for his weekly trips to maralago..) in his first time, and how hes fucking destroyed the country with his second with how he has undermined everything to go full narcoleptic cartman.
This distinction gives too much credit to democrats and liberals.
Hey I don't like HRC but this take is pants on head unhinged. Shes not doing anti-LGBT 4D chess, she was just narcissistic/delusional to think she'd be anywhere charismatic enough to convince people internationally to treat LGBT people better.
Do people in the global south & developing world have agency? Or are they simpletons being manipulated by grand puppet masters? If the answer is they have agency, the bigots that live in those places should own their bigotry and you shouldn't do apologia for them. If the answer is they are simpletons well... ok.
You lack understanding of what I said then went way off the rails with your ridiculous finger wagging. We said the exact same fucking thing. I didn't say she did it on purpose, I'm saying the way she did it got them thrown under the bus.
I'll say she did it on purpose. There is no such thing as an unintended negative consequence of democrats' actions. Not one. If they wanted to get the benefit of the doubt, they shouldn't have supported genocide. They'll need a lot of action to fix that. Not words. Democrats have demonstrated how worthless their words are.
If she could give a half decent blowjob the world would be a much nicer place
She tried.
Stop blaming women for aging
Does age make you give worse blowjobs?
No, but she's not in Bill's go-to age range. Guess that wasn't the clear intent
Stop being a half-wit
Sure. You realize how bad trump is, way worse than even Hillary. But it's Americans that voted for trump over Hillary. It's the stupidity of Americans that you should be blaming.
It's so funny how far people go to try to absolve themselves of responsibility.
Americans in very specific swing states in manipulated elections voted for Trump. Hilary actually won that election by several million votes. The USA is not a democracy and blaming voters is really a pathetic and wrong understanding of politics.
Ah yes, when it's Russia then every Russian should suffer for not overthrowing Putin. But when it's the US, Hillary actually won and “it wasn't me” anyway, and blaming voters is pathetic.
Blaming voters for not voting the right way is in fact pathetic, because their elections are fake. They couldn't have voted differently because their votes don't matter. I blame Americans but not for the reasons they were suggesting. I absolutely think that people in the US shouldn't bother to vote and should instead destroy their fake democracy and settler colony. The USA is worse than Russia in every way. It is in fact the US who over threw the Russian government and installed Putin, it is amazing how they think it is the other way around
So she should have shifter further right to try to capture the votes in those specific swing states?
Even if she moved right of Trump she would have lost, median voter theory is horseshit.
So she couldn't have won no matter what. You're saying she wasn't a bad candidate, I guess.
She was such a bad candidate that she personally couldn't win no matter how far to the right she went. She might have stood a better chance if she treated the left flank of the party like she actually needed their votes.
Why should she have to play games 'motivating' people who could see she was significantly better than trump? People didn't bother to vote against trump - so they got trump. They have no one to blame but themselves.
Because that's called politics. When you actually care more about winning than about making sure progressives lose, you try to get people to vote for you instead of regarding them with open contempt.
It seems like you are projecting this 'open contempt'. In an ideal democracy, a politician should state their platform and people should select the best one and vote.
She was clearly a better candidate with better policy than trump - and if people saw that they should have voted for her. Saying 'she didn't pander to me enough', or 'wasn't perfectly aligned with my ideals' is stupid in the face of trump as the other option.
Yes, she could have said a bunch of pings - she could have lied and attempted to get votes through a populist approach, and maybe that's what the democrats need to do, as sad as it is. But that's only because too many Americans are stupid and won't vote for the obviously better candidate for ... reasons.
I am saying she could have won if she moved left and promised to improve the material conditions the people she was asking to vote for her.
Moving right does not earn democrats republican votes, it only decreases their own turnout.
How would that have made her win? Her policy, and the history of the Democratic Party in contrast to the republicans is that she would be better for the people. Better is better. It doesn't matter how much really. If people wanted better, they would already vote for her.
The elections are fake so, no. The people in the US should force the issue of the abolishment of the electoral college and overturning the citizens united ruling by any means necessary
I feel like you’re looking for a fight, but I don’t disagree. I blame the idiocy and myopicism of my countrymen, too.
I guess we can simply keep losing elections until they educate the entire populace.
I mean, centrists prefer that to moving to the left.