It's just incredible how consistent views are under the western propaganda umbrella. Yeah, we're pretty consistent too, but it's weird seeing it from the outside. There's no critique, there's no self-reflection, there's often no logic or perspective of any kind. They keep yelling "sovereignty" like it's a magic word and they think it means something.

Unfortunately it's also really boring. The same people with the same childish understanding and incurious diet of media saying the same things over and over and over and over. I wish more of our team would disengage. I'm certainly not getting any wiser going through these conversations on repeat and I don't think anyone else is, either.

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[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Take breaks and remember that sometimes it's better (as in better for you, but also sometimes more effective rhetorically) to just poke fun rather than go through some elaborate argument with some lib who might not even listen.

[–] DickFuckarelli@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is my take, as well. If I see enough decent talking points have been established by someone else (usually a few of us are already engaged the second a LIB takes a verbal shit in any given thread) then it's not worth engaging on any level, especially for yourself.

You're not going to win when someone has brainworms. If a sufficient argument or counterpoint has been levied, then assume a bystander with half a brain will conduct a logical analysis and at the very least, start to question bullshit liberal talking points. That's the best anyone can hope for.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Salute to those who sacrifice themselves so the libs reveals their brainworms.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

Embrace Coyote-Anasazist thought

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

There's always apologising and continuing in good faith if you judge it wrong at first, too. If they are talking in good faith, the apology will likely be well received (depending on how hard the dunk, maybe – or maybe it's just the difference between a comic dunk and being rude; but I grew up around sardonic people so…), and a fruitful discussion can still happen.