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[–] Young_Gilgamesh@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Women and the folk who don't categorize themselves will never understand the deep masculane urge of self destruction. Of going down in a "blaze of glory" even if you're ultimately wrong.

The stereotype of masculinity was always a meme that drove men to destruction. The tribal warriors and knights of ye olde times idealized this type of crap too. It's been a part of humanity ever since writing was invented, probably longer. It's a strange part of being human.

[–] fracture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

i've never understood this sort of masculinity, but i also have people who need me to be alive to continue living, and i assume that changes the math (transmasc, since i figure people will wonder, and i'm fine with this being the one thing where i'm not a real man lol)

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It’s super common with young men, those who don’t have someone to “live for” but plenty of people to “die for”. No dependents, but lots of people they depend upon.

The greatest sin a man can do, in many societies, is to be an immediate burden, to take in more resources than they provide. To be a momentary net drain in material terms. Of course the pressure completely ignores emotional impact ether positive or negative, and generally discredits the material value of traditionally “feminine” work.

That’s kind of the core of a lot of misogyny and patriarchy, emotions and care are not the responsibility of men, their only responsibility is material. How others might feel when they are gone doesn’t matter, the chance to benefit them by dying, even if slim, trumps any emotional impact of them not being around, or any potential long term material benefit of them still being around.

[–] Oggyb@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Can you explain your last paragraph a bit?

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

why is this such a perfect explaination...

the refusal of the friends money, the "buisness" as a last resort, trying to avoid medical care to go out with a bang instead of with a whimper, the emotional segregation.... wow. it's not even what the show is mainly about but you're perfectly right

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago

It's because, so long as we serve nature, we aren't really people. We are expendable warrior drones, and women only have some value, because they are drone factories. Meanwhile, all we are doing is propagating some non-sentient strand of code, that is our objective.

But it does not have to be this way, this was a choice by someone powerful, to keep us animals.