THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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RULES
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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No, nonsense.
The trump admin wants to enact their plan. This bullshit about 'giving them a reason' is idiotic.
They are searching for and will find their own reasons, they're calling this innocent mother of three 'radicalised by the left'.
You are arguing for a lack of resistance.
You are right there will be escalation, but the escalation is coming regardless.
How many more innocent people have to be brutally murdered before enough is enough?
Or what do you suggest is done otherwise?
Personally I'm an advocate for burning their homes while they are out terrorising.
I would argue that peaceful mass protest would be more effective. The problem you have is that you are just not getting the numbers out on the street to become ungovernable and topple the admin. A general strike would change things quickly.
You start burning down ICE agents homes and having running street battles, yes it will feel satisfying to take some of them out with you but you will ultimately be killed or arrested and the admin will have the imagery to get low info citizens to side with them not you.
I agree with you that they are going to keep pushing regardless, but the people against this need the best optics possible to get more people on their side. Vigilante killings are not going to be helpful and will just accelerate things. I would say it's worth keeping to the peaceful route out of this, as civil war is going to be a absolute bloodbath and your going to be up against the American military. Bad odds.
That being said, owning a weapon and knowing how to use it is not a bad idea if the worst comes to pass.