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Positive changes and self determination? I feel like increasingly more "might makes right" world with more countries feeling free to bully their neighbors is going to cause the opposite. At least there was some, however tiny, effort in pretending that wasn't how it worked.
There was no effort, tell that to the victims of the American empire, of Israel, who quite literally raped women while wearing their underwear, what there was in the West was spin. Nobody has ever been more might makes right than them, Pax Americana was just subjugation, but conflict, especially in such a chaotic times, is inevitable. But I bet that, the moment Israel stops being supported by America and has to deal with their neighbours cordially and normalize, peace will come to the Middle East (barring another American/Western incursion), even the UAE and Saudi Arabia would have to play along, because it's hard to sell war to people who aren't amoral and bloodthirsty, really.
So you prefer the alternative multipolar order in which the USA, China, Russia and (maybe) India project their will in their regional influence zones by strength. That is certainly a point of view.
Certainly, because not every country will have bloodthirsty citizens and imperialistic aspirations, right? Not every country is Japan or France... and just because a country can defend itself a bit better doesn't mean they'll go full Nam or Falujah, right? People can cooperate, and for more than just military excursions. All these countries just have enough firepower to hold the West at bay, we'll see if this develops into many mini Americas or not. I believe it won't, and I believe that America and parts of the West will become so miserable we'll see a white man exodus in the next 30 years, which will make the rest of the world see the West differently and normalize relationships in about 100 years, maybe? Maybe I'm being too optimistic.
It's an interesting twist to American/Western exceptionalism to think either are especially evil and imperialistic, instead of them just having been the strong ones/those in position to do those things. It's not like there have ever been empires outside of US/West...
I am not sure if you are being ironic. Are you claiming Russia and China don't have imperialistic aspirations?
China almost none (reintegrating the colonized territories is not imperialism, but anti imperialism), and Russia, maybe but they're defanged, and certainly not to the extent of the West? That has never been part of their civilization's psyche. I mean, FFS, the only real ideological development worth anything that came from this side of the world comes from the Russians side of Europe in the form of Marxism/Leninism. I trust them more with right and wrong and power than I do France, Germany, the UK, the Netherlands (Dutch East India Company), Belgium (King Leopold)... I don't think any group of people have been as bloodthirsty, violent and amoral as these ones. You might disagree and I understand why, but any non propagandised mind outside of the Western sphere of influence knows what I'm talking about. Also, China is literally making deals and not dropping bombs around the world which, regardless of spin, is a much better alternative, lol, and the big imperialist beast in their region is and has historically been Japan, come on.
"it's never been in their psyche" why is Russia as large as it is today?
Why is the rest of the world not speaking Russian besides some countries in Europe in their vicinity ? 🤔
Why does Russia extend to the Far East? Hmmmmm? Why are there less Circassians in the Circassian Republic than in Turkey? Hmmmm....
Maybe (and this might seem crazy) other countries, those with easy access to the seas and warm water ports, colonized Africa and the Americas, while Muscovy, with prime access to the Lands beyond the Ural and a pathway into the Caucasus, colonized those areas.
@yappymonotheist I find your take immoral, racist with a tad of fascistic nationalistic influences, and definitely disinformed. I really hope it's just ragebait.
I don't even know what to say, this is a mess of words, lol. If you're "baited", it's probably your cognitive dissonance.
Marx was German.
But where did this take place? What society put it forward? And what society put Nazism forward? 🤔
Why do you think Russia "maybe" had "imperialistic aspirations?" There was a dump recently of Putin's conversations with Bush-Cheney that answered the question, but, as Parenti put it, manufacturing reality happened.
Simplify and detail it for me Maeve, please, what exactly are you referring too? I'm sorry but I just came home from a long shift. 🥲
USA has repeatedly made and broken promises to Russia, like everyone else they (we) dealt with. We promised Russia no NATO creep into their back yard ("not one inch!") and we constantly push NATO closer. We're fighting a proxy war, including a regime change, with Ukraine. Then sanction Russia for anything that might help them help their people.
Oh, yeah, definitely. Sorry about the downvotes, they should've been on me! But I assume you don't really care and understand this is just the holler of intellectually hit dogs. They'll come around, sooner or later. 😅
Not worried about any of it. It's concerning my compatriots get but a glimpse of what we've dealt to the global South, and still believe every word the empire tells them to believe.
Well put. Judge nations by their actions.
Dunno how you understood what I wrote but bringing freedom, liberty, civilization, whatever, that was the tiny effort to pretend it wasn't just about subjugation and resources.
What liberty was brought? Liberty by enforcing your systems and puppets? Freedom from their resources and lives? Civilization? What's in Western civ besides violence, man? That's what was brought. No, the tiny effort was the SPIN, the narratives, that repeated enough times can sound true, I guess? And yes, even the spin is gone, which is dangerous for Americans more than the rest of the world, because it means the people in power 1)are not focusing externally as much (but they're still vampires, ofc) 2)think they're past needing to pretend to have values.
You might've missed the word "pretending" in both of my replies