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[–] Senal@programming.dev 56 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Significant white-space is bullshit and i will die on this hill.

[–] BlueKey@fedia.io 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Is there space left on the hill? I want to join you.

[–] Michal@programming.dev 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I hear there's significant space left

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But it's only white space. That's kinda racist.

[–] Senal@programming.dev 3 points 3 days ago

significant white space to it's classist and racist

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Their whole thing is that they don't want to care about it, so if you get to the hill and there's no space, you're SOL.

[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

You are not alone, my friend

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I just want JSON with optionally quoted keys, and comments.

[–] BlueKey@fedia.io 5 points 4 days ago

JSON5 my beloved

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago
[–] softwarist@programming.dev -2 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Because I am not counting white space when I read. Or should we just write machine code/assembler/pick something straight away?

[–] softwarist@programming.dev 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Not sure I'm following the jump from significant whitespace to machine code. How are those related?

[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Human and machine read differently. If you ignore that (in case with indentation), then why bother with writing human-friendly form of code, when what is going to be really executed is something else?

[–] softwarist@programming.dev 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If anything, that sounds like an argument in favor of significant indentation, not against it. Humans and machines read differently, yes, which is why we tend to add whitespace and indentation to code even for programming languages where it's not significant. We do that expressly because it makes the code more human-friendly, so it's quite the opposite of ignoring their differences.

[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

No, it is an argument against it. We indent code so that it is more comfortable to read it, not in order to make it easier to understand

[–] softwarist@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You're mistaken:

Indentation is a secondary notation that is often intended to lower cognitive load for a programmer to understand the structure of the code.

[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Lol. Go on, show me how it is easier to understand structure of the code when I am 3 levels down, first two are already out of sight

[–] softwarist@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

That's not a coherent argument, but you don't have to agree with me. I think this discussion has run its course.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because yaml is not a programming language, and debugging why your whatever you're configuring isn't working correctly can be a nightmare. It doesn't tell you you missed an indent on a block, it just assumes it should be there and changes the meaning.

Braces are visually clear.

[–] softwarist@programming.dev 1 points 17 hours ago

I think YAML has its fair share of design flaws, but I don't think significant indentation is one of them. It may not be a programming language (which may be debatable), but there are plenty that use syntactic whitespace.