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Trump snubs Zelensky’s offer to help US with drone tech and lashes out at him again
(www.the-independent.com)
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Haaaaaaang on.
Are you saykng that Iran has been supplying Russia with drones, and now they'll be keeping them to use against the USA, for the explicit purpose of being destroyed?
So, wouldn't this mean Russia loses their supply? So wouldn't that mean it's actually in Zelenskyys best interest to NOT help the USA?
If USA ends their war quickly, Iran starts supplying Russia again with drones. But until that happens, wouldn't Ukraine have an easier time in their own war?
This was my first take too, but I think that was mostly true in the first years when the rot in the russian military was more prevalent. They have been steadily cleaning up and ramping up production across their MIC and they also have local Shahed production now set up by Iranian engineers afaik.
That means that the main limits on Russias ability to get drones is now primarily financial, rather than production volume. So while they lost some of their effective production, they have made so much money out of this, that even if it ends today, their biggest challenge, their economy, is hugely improved. If it continues, they will be able to afford even more production.
With the effectiveness of the Shaheds, I wouldn't be surprised if China is also pumping them out and Russia can buy them there. If NATO dumped a bunch of money into reverse engineering and setting up production, Iranian allies sure as hell should have.
The USA is rapidly burning through munitions that Ukraine desperately needs. I suspect the loss of those anti air weapons etc is much worse for Ukraine than the small reduction in drones launched at them.
I honestly hadn't realised munitions were so difficult to produce. Everyone concerned about burning through stockpiles. I guess in non-war times you don't need the capability to produce a lot in a short time.
That's exactly it, yes. Modern armaments production is geared around low intensity conflicts and maintaining existing stockpiles. It's not set up for full militarization. That's a good thing in a lot of ways; economies geared for war end up needing war. But it means that even a nation like the US can only sustain a high intensity conflict for so long.
Iran is particularly taxing because they're focused heavily on the use of cheap drone munitions, which the US just does not have a cost effective way of intercepting. US air defense is still designed around shooting down expensive planes and missiles. Patriot is an incredible air defense system, but it's ungodly expensive. The whole system costs over a billion dollars, and the missiles are 4 million each. If one of those missiles shoots down a $50 million Mig-29, that's a really good deal. A $20,000 shahed drone... Not so much.
Russia is getting a huge advantage from the Iran-US war. Trump, as a Russian asset, had the excuse he needed to lift sanctions on Russian oil.
Ukraine needs to cut off Russian oil, which means stopping the Iran threat.
Yes, Russia will lose a part of their supply.
They will also gain a lot of money they can use to buy things from other places.
The only way the US ends this war quickly is by retreating. Drones or not it's a quagmire.
War agsinst a non-nuclear state onlu needs 2 things to be quick.
A shitload of nukes
Someone in charge of those nukes who has no morals or empathy.
At this point, the only thing making the war take more than a day, is the fact that somehow trump thought better of dropping 4,000 nukes spread out over the entirety of Iran. They'd probably call it something like "Operation Scorched Earth".
Nukes risk triggering MAD, that's the end of the world
Iran has no nukes.
Nope but China, Israel, Russia, India and Pakistan all do and its probably unclear who the US would be launching at when they're all headed towards Iran. Lots of itchy trigger fingers around.
Israel is the only country even marginally close enough to be mistaken for the target.
And they would know we're not going to fire upon them. We're apperently sucking their dick politically.
None of that would make sense for any of those countries to think it's aimed at them.
Let me put it in baseball terms. You're looking at an infield pop fly, and worried that the outfielders might catch it. Or in the case of Russia, a fan in the upper bowl of the bleachers. The trajectory doesn't line up for that to make sense.
MAYBE Israel, but again, they know they're safe from us.
Depends on trajectory, to hit Iran, unless your going over the southern hemisphere, you're either passing over China, Russia or Europe / the middle east. At least for ICBMs launched from the mainland. I suppose there's nothing stopping a sub from launching a few miles from Iran's coast.