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So who found him liable for sexual assault? Was it the courtroom sketch artist?
And what led them to that conclusion, I wonder. Was it the rape?
I'm not so sure what about this you find so difficult to understand here. I really don't.
I've explained it several times in many different ways, from complex to simple.
trump committed what is commonly defined as a rape
in a civil court, he was found liable for having committed what, in NY State, is legally defined as sexual assault
he paid e jean carroll a massive, multi-million-dollar judgement
he was not "convicted of rape"
why is that so hard to understand?
It’s not hard to understand. But it’s often used by trumps defenders to claim he isn’t a rapist.
And he is. Let there be NO DOUBT.
as I have said several times, nobody here is debating that. I was just discussing the difference in legal terminology in NY State. Even the judge in the case, in her final ruling, did express her frustration with the State of New York's anachronistic legal terminology.
It stems from NY State defining rape - a very long time ago - as the unwillful act of, basically, "man put penis in woman's vagina". Not even her 'other places' which were defined as sodomy. Eventually, and much later, other acts that, in most other places were also defined as also rape, NY State decided to create a new law to cover as 'sexual assault' rather than expanding their rape laws as most other places did.
many people - then and still today - find this to be many flavors of bullshit and have and continue to try to change this by consolidating all such acts into the legal definition of rape in NY State. the fight is ongoing.
Some people think that the law and the truth are always the same. They are not. Thank you for being smart enough to recognize that.
I should have been more clear in my initial comment. I apologize for not being more considerate in my wording.
You have been clear and consistent throughout.
what I mean is that my initial point was to try to highlight NY State's weird and archaic rape laws, and I did a pretty crappy job of that, initially coming off like I was trying to defend Trump. I can see why that triggered some people, and, given the topic and the space, I should have been more thoughtful before I said anything.