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Switzerland, Iceland, the Iroquois Confederacy, polish-lithiuanian Commonwealth, san marino
Iceland has one of the oldest parliaments. It didn't become a democracy until 1944. San Marino vested sovereignty in the people (the definition of democracy) in 1974.
Ok. By that definition the us isn't a democracy either. If you don't count imperfect democracies and then only count your own imperfect democracy as a democracy then yeah. You're the first. Congrats.
Who votes for president again?
C'mon, now, Iceland was under the Danish king until 1944. That's clearly a monarchy. As for San Marino, the point is that they were tweaking bedrock fundamentals of their system as recently as 1974. It's not been the same one in use for hundreds of years.
That's not clear to me at all. Canada, Australia, the UK, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Lichtenstein, the Netherlands, Belgium, and more are all currently monarchies still today. Are they not democracies?
In 1776 Switzerland was not even called Switzerland, it was The Old Swiss Confederacy, and not even a single unified country. They didn't abandon the sovereignty of the individual cantons until 1848 when they adopted their constitution. I wouldn't call the canton situation a modern democracy.
I'll give you The Six Nations.
I don't know enough about the others to say specifically, but I suspect that much like Switzerland, they didn't reform their governments from a fuedal state to a modern state until the mid to late 1800s much like the rest of Europe.