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NYC covers about 800 square km. Moscow is 2,500 square km and much bigger than that if you count the adjoining metropolitan areas. The standard "America is different because so big" argument doesn't work against the largest country on earth by area.
Moscow traffic is also notoriously shit so it's not like that's a differentiating factor either.
Plus, the likes of London and Paris also have old metro systems that are much better maintained than NYC, so idk what combination of excuses NYC has.
I think it is more of a "this won't work because traffic in New York is too bad."
Which is like...yeah? That's kind of why the metro desperately needs an upgrade, so more people can use it and prevent the gridlock?
I agree.
It’s a damned if you do, damned if you don’t scenario.
These stations need to be upgraded, repaired, and overhauled, but it’s not as simple as “close these stations down and invent a magical bus system for the time bieng”. It’s an extremely sensitive situation and I don’t feel like people are understanding. It’s not that it shouldn’t happen, but the level of disruption would be catastrophic for thousands of people. It’s a bad situation.
This isn’t an “America is big” problem?
What is the population density of New York vs Moscow?
New York is 27,000 per square kilometer. Moscow is around 8.5 thousand.
Combine that extreme density with infrastructure that was built hundreds of years ago, and additionally several chokepoints at only a few major bridges and tunnels.