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Socialism like public schools and your local fire departments, roads paid for by tax money instead of tolls. Etc etc.
Don't worry, the most extremist of conservatives think those are evil, too. Well, at least public schools (and the post office).
The dipshit libertarian wing of conservatism don't want public roads or fire departments, as well.
Don't forget the most valuable data center in town, the public library.
Oh, right. I still remember coming into work and some guy was all in a froth over the notion that people are using the Internet, at the library, and their usage was not being tracked. This, at the time when you could still wardrive and find an open Wifi with ease, and he was well aware of this fact, but pointing that out did not quell his quivering rage over this non-issue.
I tried asking more questions, but they seemed to be upset at the notion that "terrorists" could use the library to research a terrorist plot and it wouldn't be tracked (by W's admin that is). Mixed in was the concern that teens and the homeless could be using it to watch porn.
It seems he was listening to something on hate radio on the way in and I suspect this kind of rage bait is meant to put the idea into their heads that libraries are cesspools and need to be defunded. I think the more recent rage bait about "drag queen story hour" is another bit of rage bait planted for the same exact reason.
I remember one thing he seemed to be fixated on, as well - people getting "free movies". Why don't they just rent movies?
Funniest bit of this conversation, to me, was me asking - "well, do you even use the library? Have you been to any of the local branches? I highly recommend you check it out." - their answer involved massive indignation at the very notion of them using a library, followed by: "we all have Amazon, why do we even need public libraries?" Well, case closed, I guess.
It’s interesting, with those people, where even the faintest possibility that something positive could maybe be misused is enough to gut the whole thing, but you show imperically how capitalism is used for evil fare more often than for good and they’re chill with that.
3M and DuPont could poison a whole town, cover it up, and then get no real punishment, but if they even THINK about their porn-hungry, homeless strawman that’s enough to burn down their local library. Conservatives are deeply unserious people who cause deeply serious damage.
Oh, yeah, I remember talking to this guy about the corporate death penalty and the idea of a city or state exercising that right on a wayward corporation horrified him. It didn't seem to matter what they did; they should still be permitted to conduct business in any jurisdiction, no matter what the law is or the public sentiment, because "merica" (that was almost literally the reasoning, FFS).
But this guy was a total simp for corporations at nearly every turn. The idea of the Founders' original plans for intellectual property he thought was just ridiculous ( at the time, the concern was Mickey Mouse falling into public domain, as it should. This was in the mid-00s. ) and he thought was some Communist plot. 🤣 I'd love to know what he thinks about Steamboat Willie now in the public domain along with many other things now.
Bet he was a huge fan of corporate subsidies, especially when the business was experiencing the consequences of management failure and the reasoning was essentially that they were holding their employees’ well being hostage.
My friends dad is like that. We had a whole conversation/argument one time over a corporations right to basically do whatever it wanted because they had the position of power/ownership. The energy there has been chill since then, but my friend also just moved out into a house, so it’ll be less of an issue.