this post was submitted on 03 Sep 2026
1148 points (99.5% liked)

Fuck AI

8131 readers
1995 users here now

"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"

A place for all those who loathe AI to discuss things, post articles, and ridicule the AI hype. Proud supporter of working people. And proud booer of SXSW 2024.

AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (5 children)

You can go read on r/teachers (https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/Teachers) just how bad this shit is getting--both phone use, and AI use for assignments.

We seriously need to completely ban both phones and AI use in grade school. Back to pencil and paper, and "show your work". The kids coming out of high school now can barely read, beyond texting. It's frightening.

If you give a fuck about your kids, you'll make sure they can read and write, because the schools don't give a fuck about your kids.

[–] Kaerkob@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Teachers give a fuck. Unfortunately we refuse to adequately fund schools and don't give teachers the latitude to teach.

[–] Up_dog@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

They sneaking in those dummy phones too?

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

One thing to promote literacy might be calm down about the sex, drugs and violence in books. I didn't have a single interesting assigned reading until Red Dragon in highschool.

A Time to Kill, great. Wish I read that instead of to kill a mockingbird.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Bad take, Mockingbird is great. Compelling and depressingly relevant to this day.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's a good book, yes, but I was not interested in it and I had the executive function of a teenage boy.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If we catered education to only the things that appeal to the most distracted teenage boys it would just be tits and explosions.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Actually I'd like to argue the reflective point: why is there not an expectation that coursework should be interesting and compelling for students?

[–] raze2012@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

why is there not an expectation that coursework should be interesting and compelling for students?

As you said, you had the executive function of a teenage boy. The works still get taught because they are interesting and relevant. but it's hard to see that as a kid, as you're developing vocabulary and literacy and also lacking life experiences to relate.

Schools try to compromise by giving a list of choices and letting students choose from those on what is most interesting. But curriculums only flex so much.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

they are interesting and relevant. but it’s hard to see that as a kid

Yeah so there's this projection of, this is good and valuable to you, regardless what your circumstances and abilities are.

[–] raze2012@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In some extents, yes. I get what you're saying, but I do believe the ability to recognize and reflect om your country's dark spots (past and present) and recognize the rise of an authoritarian regime are universal lessons.

To clarify, I'm not opposed to fitting some YA literature as well into that too. I was introduced to Pendragon through 9th grade English, and ended up reading the entire series by myself afterwards.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If it gets them writing essays and participating who cares?

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because analyzing themes and connecting it to history and sociology are important media literacy skills that high schoolers should be learning.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A Time to Kill won't fulfill that?

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think maybe "retributive vigilantism is good actually" isn't a school-appropriate message.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's back to my first point

calm down about the sex, drugs and violence in books. I didn’t have a single interesting assigned reading

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well that's a skill issue. Just off the top of my head: Romeo & Juliet (most Shakespeare fills at least one of those), Lord of the Flies, Animal Farm, 1984, fucking Canterbury Tales these are not boring stories it seems like you want vapid entertainment rather than education.

I forgot about Lord of the flies. So that's two books from 8th grade through highschool, I was not assigned the rest of those.

But sure, a time to kill is vapid compared to to kill a Mockingbird. The one where the black characters have agency, and the choices that the lawyer makes with intention matter and have consequences, is vapid. The one where the kids shame a lynchmob and that's the only real disobedience to the system shown in the book is superior.

[–] raze2012@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

The parents, apparently.

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

“No child left behind” turned into “more children left behind.”

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

They weren't left behind; they were trampled by the machine pushing them forward.

And, in retrospect, the reality of "No Child Left Behind" fits the MO of US governance: they are catering to the optics of "a child being held back in grade" and not to the actual issues that are preventing the child from learning.

[–] Up_dog@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Totally freeking agree. My family are all teachers and wow. The protocol for cellphones is you put them away at your cubby.

But now they’re bringing their real phones AND a dummy one to put in the pouches instead.

nd yes. AI destroying critical thinking skills. This generation is fucked. iPad parents as well.

Shortening attention spans with those “shorts” on YouTube and other places.

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

...just put signal jammers in each class in easy to reach spot for a teacher, sheesh. AI requires net, FB and Insta too. Nowadays kids don't do offline so that should solve the problem.

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

because the schools don't give a fuck about your kids.

News flash: it's not just the schools, unfortunately.