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[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Also, Donald Trump is an evil fascist, but he's a cheap evil fascist. He would definitely inflame tensions with rhetorical support for Israel, say "Jerusalem is definitely seriously the capital guys", and probably appoint his son in law as their diplomat.

...but he probably wouldn't send them free weapons. There are a lot of areas where he is the greater evil but I don't actually think this is one of them.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The US has given weapons to Israel since the 1960s.

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The libs would actually pretend to care about Palestinians and pretend to side against Israel if Trump were president.

[–] Zevlen@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Lib here. I care about Palestine and I also feel strongly that Israel shouldn't even have been established or founded in the first place. Here's why; state of Israel from the get-go grabbed land, was hostile and violent against Palestinians... When state of Israel was getting established they bombed in cities and villages and terrorized the population... Then they massacred a village. That's how Israel formed. There was 10% Jewish and the rest 90% were Palestinians and Arabs (Christians and Muslims).

Probably if You ask enough liberals you'd find out that most don't agree with the history of Israel and it's fucked up ways against humanity.

Also Britain for the most part was responsible for all of this Palestinian/ Israeli mess to begin with. Then everyone else (other western countries) got involved.

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] xXthrowawayXx@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago

The coolest way to short circuit peoples brains is to say “the state of israel doesn’t have the right to exist”.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

Lib here

Might I persuade you to reconsider this part? Liberalism/neoliberalism is what produced and maintained Israel, along with many other genocidal projects across the world, even if the liberals in your community shake their heads and then vote blue anyway.

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

Lib here.

Stopped reading there

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm sure Israel wouldn't have had much trouble bribing him to do it.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

he's not a fascist. Many of his supporters are but he clearly just does whatever gets attention.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 years ago

He has arrived at fascism as a winning strategy, but that still makes him a fascist.

[–] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

Distinction without a difference if his narcissism enables fascists