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[–] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 104 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It's been hard trying to ram into liberals' thick skulls that the "lesser evil" voting shtick that comes every four goddamn years doesn't quite energize people to haul their asses to the booths, especially when said lesser evil is the incumbent. But I've seen some come around recently, so it's something.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 93 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Also doesn't help when the "lesser evil" policy continues to become increasingly indistinguishable from the "greater evil" policy.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 64 points 2 years ago

We have reached peak evil. There's no crime that is actually worse than genocide. Libs have lesser-eviled themselves to the bottom of the pit and arrived at the ultimate evil. technically they've been there for a long time, but the rank and file had no idea. Now they know what's going on, it's in the news, it's on their social media.

[–] screwthisdumbcrap@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Meet me in the middle," says the unjust man...

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

sure says the other unjust man

[–] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago

They are both unjust stuff

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Look, you're just going to have to hold your nose and vote Genocidal Fascist Party. You don't want Fascist-Genocidalist Party to win, do you?

[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Also, Donald Trump is an evil fascist, but he's a cheap evil fascist. He would definitely inflame tensions with rhetorical support for Israel, say "Jerusalem is definitely seriously the capital guys", and probably appoint his son in law as their diplomat.

...but he probably wouldn't send them free weapons. There are a lot of areas where he is the greater evil but I don't actually think this is one of them.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The US has given weapons to Israel since the 1960s.

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago (8 children)

The libs would actually pretend to care about Palestinians and pretend to side against Israel if Trump were president.

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[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Most liberals don't give a shit and are arguing in bad faith, be it consciously or not

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[–] Candidate@hexbear.net 87 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Easily the funniest thing would be Biden winning the electoral college but losing the pop vote.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the funniest thing would be literally no one voting

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[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Funniest outcome: Biden has a massive stroke shortly before the election, Trump wins easily vs a literally braindead opponent, then trump dies of McCardiacArrest before taking office, leaving us with president, uh idk maybe Matt Gatez or something.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (3 children)

leaving us with president, uh idk maybe Matt Gatez or something.

Mike Pillow

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[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

chuds would shed their material bodies and ascend to a plane of pure cope

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[–] newmou@hexbear.net 86 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Hey champ, can we maybe not talk about genocide right now?? Huh bud? Chief? Can we not do that while the most important election of our lifetimes is happening?? That ok buddy?

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

1 year into the term: hey buddy it’s only been a year. These things take time. Be patient.

2 years in: champ it’s almost midterms. We can’t lose the Senate over Palestine, the adults in the room have more important concerns.

3 years in: fam we have [arbitrary self- or GOP-initiated crisis like a government shutdown or Supreme Court decision] to deal with. This has to wait. We only have so much political capital.

4 years in: this is the most important election

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 70 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Liberals will blame three groups in this order: "Woke" leftists against genocide, Palestinian/Arab Americans, Black people

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 69 points 2 years ago

Yeah. I'm cool with it. Fuck those fascist shitheads. Some reddit-logo were handwaving "Genocide Joe" saying it was a GOP talking point. Fucking hell. I used to wonder, how could the Holocaust happen? How could so many people be complicit in something so horrible? I still don't understand it, but I'm afraid I'm starting to.

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 58 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The rhetorical refuge of libs trying to vote scold right now is that genocide is going to happen either way, so you need to swallow your selfish pride and vote for the least bad genocide enabler.

A vote for someone endorsing genocide is apparently not approval of the genocide either. Vote for genocide but shake your head while doing it so everyone sees you disapprove.

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[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (1 children)

where did you come from?
where did you go?
I'll never vote for Genocide Joe

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[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I was banned from two different lemmyworld political coms for being against this kinda shit lol

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[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (1 children)

they're 100% just gonna blame Muslims

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Trump could put them in camps and libs would tell them they deserve it for not voting harder

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[–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago

Bit idea: Joe Biden is a tankie.

  1. Supports sending the tanks (to Ukraine).
  2. Supports Muslim genocide (in Palestine).

See? Bona fide tankie.

[–] mittens@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

At this point, does it even matter what their spin doctors and their strategic autopsies conclude? If an electoral system only presents two options against genocide: feverish support, or guilty complicitness then it's fucking useless, it belongs in the garbage. It sucks that it took me a genocide to really really recognize how useless partisan electoralism is, because it's hard to dispell the illusion that maybe it'll give you some crumbs if the right guy comes along. Nope, not even in the face of genocide will it cede an inch.

[–] ___@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They can line up along party lines because it spurs controversy, which increases turnout and publicity. There’s plenty of money floating to both sides to balance that out.

Our cowardly, self-serving politicians won’t dare bite the hand that feeds them. The Mossad is our second pair of eyes in the Middle East, and Israeli backed AIPAC money runs deep in American politics.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Most low income people were materially better off under Trump, whose pandemic policies resulted in the lowest childhood poverty rate since the 90s. (These welfare policies were cancelled or expired under Biden.)

Dems will still assume 3rd party and non-voters have a strong Biden preference.

[–] GhostofLeninsGhost@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (4 children)

If not for the pandemic, he wouldn't have done any of it. It wasn't a particular position of Trump's to give that money, he just was in the position to do so at a time of crisis.

[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The intent doesn't change the reality. If your kid only had food to eat because of a Trump policy and you're presented with a choice between him and a nigh-identical ancient piece of shit, which one do you think you're going to pull the lever for?

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[–] edge@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But how many people are going to see it that way vs just “Trump instated these programs that helped us, Biden took them away.”?

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[–] save_vs_death@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

I'm expecting Islamophobia to become even more ingrained as usual with libs leading the charge and going "If Muslims didn't want Islamophobia maybe they shouldn't have voted for the Muslim ban president 💅"

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

Idk tho today's election results look pretty bad for the GOP lol. Just like the midterms did. Its possible that Joe himself will lose the presidency while GOP lose heavily elsewhere though? But like, the GOP is still dealing with a deflated base that got what they wanted in Dobbs and don't care anymore, and continue to run on culture war bullshit that noone actually cares about.

There's also the issue of RFK Jr, who is apparently mostly pulling votes from Trump.

Like yes absolutely 100% the genocide is going to deflate the zoomer vote* that helped Dems out so much in the midterms but I think the GOP is having electoral problems too, not the least of which that they support the Genocide too, which is going to make the whole thing a mess.

*Not to mention the Muslim vote which obviously tanked for good reason, and is a material thing in at least one swing state.

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[–] Clicheguevara@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

Nah, havent you heard? The dems won the Kentucky governors race by a few points so absolutely nothing has to change and Biden will breeze to victory in all the swing states polls say hes seriously underwater in

[–] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Where was that tweet about democrats looking themselves in the mirror post 2016 and saying "we gotta get more racist"?

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This isn't devil's advocate this is parody

I decided to delete the thing I needed to explain and just leave this part.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (3 children)

spoilerLeftists need to understand that genocide isn't on the ballot and vote for what is

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[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Are there even enough of us in this country to swing a fucking vote? Why do we keep getting blamed for everything?

[–] stigsbandit34z@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

The biggest voting block in the country and irrelevant at the same time

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are there even enough of us in this country to swing a fucking vote? Why do we keep getting blamed for everything?

No. And because we don't have any power or ability to influence the farcical US federal elections we make safe, easy enemies. There isn't much currency in yelling at Republicans. Dems already believe they're illiterate sub-human monsters. But they see leftists as traitors and they can enjoy imagining that they only lost because we stabbed them in the back, so they can righteously vent their anger at people they believe owe them allegiance. It's more emotionally satisfying than the old, stale conflict with the GOP.

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[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

vote BLUE No Matter Genocide

up-yours-woke-moralists

norm-respectable

biden-troll

meme post version: https://hexbear.net/post/1027843

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I hope the democratic party loses the next thousand elections

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Obama had a close election against Romney in 2012, but that was with Obama who has a lot more charisma than the wet noodle that's Biden. Romney isn't really charismatic and the only reason libs like him is because he's "respectable." Trump has genuine charm and anyone who says otherwise hasn't spent a considerable amount of time in rural parts of the US where he's still adored.

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I don't see why that should concern us. It was annoying to be blamed for 2016 because there was nominally an electoral left that was trying to win over "progressive" liberals. Getting tarred for spoiling the agenda of the party was counterproductive to the goal of improving the agenda of the party. Now that that strategy has failed utterly (largely because the non-voting population could not be convinced that that shit actually mattered) and the champions of the electoral left are riding the Sybian for AIPAC, it doesn't really matter that we're the enemies of the Most Progressive US President in History. Damn right we are. The whole thing's a farce, and we only neutralize all hope of resistance by pretending otherwise.

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[–] TheOtherwise@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (4 children)

This thread makes me think of all the shitty thinga Biden/dems have done.

Whats the latest with the border wall? News came that he was going to contine building it a week or so before israel palestine stuff.

How did libs spin that shit?

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