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It's been hard trying to ram into liberals' thick skulls that the "lesser evil" voting shtick that comes every four goddamn years doesn't quite energize people to haul their asses to the booths, especially when said lesser evil is the incumbent. But I've seen some come around recently, so it's something.
Also doesn't help when the "lesser evil" policy continues to become increasingly indistinguishable from the "greater evil" policy.
We have reached peak evil. There's no crime that is actually worse than genocide. Libs have lesser-eviled themselves to the bottom of the pit and arrived at the ultimate evil. technically they've been there for a long time, but the rank and file had no idea. Now they know what's going on, it's in the news, it's on their social media.
"Meet me in the middle," says the unjust man...
sure says the other unjust man
They are both unjust
Look, you're just going to have to hold your nose and vote Genocidal Fascist Party. You don't want Fascist-Genocidalist Party to win, do you?
Also, Donald Trump is an evil fascist, but he's a cheap evil fascist. He would definitely inflame tensions with rhetorical support for Israel, say "Jerusalem is definitely seriously the capital guys", and probably appoint his son in law as their diplomat.
...but he probably wouldn't send them free weapons. There are a lot of areas where he is the greater evil but I don't actually think this is one of them.
The US has given weapons to Israel since the 1960s.
The libs would actually pretend to care about Palestinians and pretend to side against Israel if Trump were president.
Lib here. I care about Palestine and I also feel strongly that Israel shouldn't even have been established or founded in the first place. Here's why; state of Israel from the get-go grabbed land, was hostile and violent against Palestinians... When state of Israel was getting established they bombed in cities and villages and terrorized the population... Then they massacred a village. That's how Israel formed. There was 10% Jewish and the rest 90% were Palestinians and Arabs (Christians and Muslims).
Probably if You ask enough liberals you'd find out that most don't agree with the history of Israel and it's fucked up ways against humanity.
Also Britain for the most part was responsible for all of this Palestinian/ Israeli mess to begin with. Then everyone else (other western countries) got involved.
Will you condemn Hamas?
Lmao, gottem
The coolest way to short circuit peoples brains is to say “the state of israel doesn’t have the right to exist”.
Might I persuade you to reconsider this part? Liberalism/neoliberalism is what produced and maintained Israel, along with many other genocidal projects across the world, even if the liberals in your community shake their heads and then vote blue anyway.
Stopped reading there
I'm sure Israel wouldn't have had much trouble bribing him to do it.
Imagine the PLFP bombing Trump-Hotel and Casino Tel Aviv.
he's not a fascist. Many of his supporters are but he clearly just does whatever gets attention.
He has arrived at fascism as a winning strategy, but that still makes him a fascist.
Distinction without a difference if his narcissism enables fascists
The lesser evil is just the greater evil with an 8-year delay
Most liberals don't give a shit and are arguing in bad faith, be it consciously or not
Most don't, but a good portion do. Many of us in the West were once disillusioned libs, even. It's absolutely necessary to further the disillusionment many have with the Dems, if not to turn them over to socialism then to weaken the duopoly and gain strength from the increasing illegitimacy of the system.
It also doesn't work when "the lesser evil" spiel has been used for 40-odd years
Yea at some point you can't use the same person with the outchx of "vote for him.and he'll be more progressive" after people have watched that not happen 6 times with their own eyes.
So to counteract that liberals wrote an op Ed telling that person they're wrong and stupid.