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A few weeks ago, you saw people saying he was a generational talent, that they would pick him (as a prospect coming out of college) over Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning, John Elway, comparing his game to Patrick Mahomes. He has lost a few games this year but Jesus, his defense gives up 33 PPG, 420 yards of offense per game and they let people score 94% of the time in the redzone.

He has 119 total touchdowns over 3 years with only 13 ints. This year he is completing almost 70% of his passes. Are you guys genuinely concerned about his ability to play at the next level or is it just nit picking at this point?

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[–] doggoploggo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (13 children)

Some evaluators labeled him "generational" which led to a bit of a hate circle-jerk overcorrection as soon as he started struggling. He has strengths and weaknesses just like every other prospect, but Caleb is a lightning rod for hot takes because of who he is, where he plays, and how much he was hyped up.

[–] hepatitisC@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

There's also a lot of people who saw him demonstrate immature behavior. In the Notre Dame game he was yelling at his teammates, blaming them for his own shortcomings. You could hear him and see him doing this throughout the game. It wasn't hyping them up, it was him refusing to take accountability for why things weren't working. That's been a keystone trait of his...when things don't go exactly right from the start of a game he doesn't know how to adjust.

In two other games since then he's had reactions where in one he sat on the bench refusing to cheer his D on/pouting, and the second game he, literally and not figuratively, ran into the stands and cried to his Mom over a loss. It's also worth noting this wasn't a few tears, but heaving breaths and tears to the point his Mom covered his face up.

There are more than just dubious reports that raise red flags with his behavior and maturity. He appears to be a lower ceiling/lower floor version of Fields but with maturity/leadership issues. He comes from a much weaker division but is playing worse.

[–] parks381@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I disagree on the Fields comparison. Fields had issues with mechanics, navigating the pocket, reading the field, and throwing into windows (waited for guys to get wide open). He still has all these issues.

Williams has his issues, but he checks most of the above boxes that Fields didn't. Fields may seem like a better prospect because of the stats, but he had more around him to play with. More times then not his team was far superior than who they played against.

Williams Maturity on the other hand is absolutely a red flag.

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