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[–] Drusas@kbin.social 147 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And this is the sort of legislation that should be passed by direct referendum, will of the people, and not by representatives who have been bought out by special interest groups. Desperately needed but unlikely to happen.

[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (5 children)

the country would function so much better if we just sent out ballots to everyone to vote on every bill if they want to

[–] jettrscga@lemmy.world 74 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's how Brexit happened in the UK.

I agree about not trusting the politicians, but not sure I trust the general public much more unfortunately.

[–] scaredoftrumpwinning@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The founding fathers didn't either that's why they put a buffer in in case there was a nuance not under stood by the general public. The only problem is I don't think they envisioned a party hell bent on the country's destruction.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

The greatest flaw in the founder's reasoning was that they trusted public servants to fight for what's best for the country. They expected public figures to always attempt to do what's best for the country and their constituents and built our systems based on a lot of trust.

They never expected there to be half the country that doesn't care about the rules and only works for their own benefit.

[–] mapiki@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

A two party system was one of George Washington's fear. It breeds division while both sides occupy themselves making us emotional about how much the other side does wrong. Then they get more donations and more power. They don't care if they aren't effective because they know we won't ever go to the other side.

... There's a great Freakonomics episode on the duopoly formed by the Democratic and Republican parties and how they both benefit while stifling the competition from other parties that could provide more varied perspective.

My takeaway - support rank choices voting and elimination of closed primaries (which encourage extremism in candidates).

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That’s because we need a maximum age to vote too.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A maximum age to vote?

Wtf?

So old people should have no voice?

[–] Disco_Dougie@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I kind of see what they're saying. If you're on your way out, you probably shouldn't have a ton of sway on how the world operates after you're gone.

But that is a suuuuper slippery slope.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

"The law abhors dead hand control."

Voting is a basic human right, though.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 58 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I non-sarcastically love your optimism. But part of me really believes that 50% of the country votes however their church tells them to. So I'm not sure it'd be better.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It's more like one fourth. Half the country doesn't vote at all.

[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Mine doesn't have a mouth though, just a small opening

[–] kpw@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago

I would be very careful with that. US should try having a more representative government first.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

So long as you don't like a functioning economy, sure.

[–] SheeEttin@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You'd get people voting for all the projects and none of the budget.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You are getting down voted for telling the truth.

[–] SheeEttin@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

It happens. I'm not concerned about it. I've seen that happen first-hand. If people don't want to acknowledge it, they can learn it for themselves.