the idea that no modern society has not functioned without police is absurd, plenty of European nations did not have a formalized police force until the 1900s, maybe they dont consider the 1800s 'modern' but i certainly do, all the formal class relations of today were cemented then. i also dont necessarily agree with a complete abolition of the idea of police, but i do agree with the complete abolition of the american police. its also a little interesting how muddled this idea has become because originally america did not have a police force, they had slave patrols which morphed into the present day police force.

also i fucking hate seeing trans people on /r/neoliberal, go talk to more of our community jesus christ

[–] ziggurter@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

the idea that no modern society has not functioned without police is absurd, plenty of European nations did....

Also, it is a very intentional choice to ignore non-nation-state societies. Which is no surprise. It's part of the liberal strategy to pretend you cannot have human society without a violently oppressive institution dictating 99% of your living conditions and aiming them all toward the support and protection of capitalism.

It's almost a tautology, in a world where capitalism is globally ubiquitous: I'm going to ignore societies that don't have police in order to pretend that societies cannot exist without the police.

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

maybe they dont consider the 1800s 'modern' but i certainly do

They don't actually know shit about history, so think that "modern" is the same as "contemporary", in the same way they know nothing about sociology so ignore non-nation-states like ziggurter pointed out.