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Whenever people and the mainstream media talk about "The trauma of COVID" they always mean the lockdowns and not the... you know... millions of deaths.

Well I have trauma about the deaths. I have trauma about the way our society was manipulated into sacrificing a huge chunk of the population with a smile and a wave, and how we just don't talk about it.

This same society still expects you to be horrified by the violence of 9/11 or whatever when the US alone was experiencing a 9/11 level of death every day and the disease is still killing, we just don't bother recording the spread anymore. What the fuck is wrong with people?!

I literally get (for lack of a better word) triggered when people talk about how hard it was to have to have to wear a mask or to not get a haircut or some selfish bullshit. Or when they act as though their kids remote learning for a while ruined them or something. It's all so petty. They just don't give a shit. They'd kill millions for a haircut. It makes my heart sink, my eyes glaze and I start dissociating.

Imagine if this was the blitzkrieg, and instead of going to bomb shelters people were just like "I'm sick of hearing about these bombings, I'm just going to pretend they're not happening and leave it up to fate." And then the bomb shelters are all closed and even the people who still wanted to take shelter are left to fend for themselves. What madness would have that been if they had done that during WW2? Dragging people into the street to be bombed?

I don't care if you were sick of lockdowns or restrictions! Fighting a pandemic should have been like fighting a war, we should have been doing everything we could to survive!

I am scared of these people. These brainwashed puppets. These eugenicists. If they can do this, well... it makes me feel surrounded by monsters. Like I can't trust anyone.

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[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine if this was the blitzkrieg, and instead of going to bomb shelters people were just like "I'm sick of hearing about these bombings, I'm just going to pretend they're not happening and leave it up to fate." And then the bomb shelters are all closed and even the people who still wanted to take shelter are left to fend for themselves.

And the people who try to take shelter or talk about all the bombings are told that they should seek therapy for their uncontrolled and unreasonable anxiety.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am so tired of people implying I am cowardly because I actually want to eradicate the virus. It's so backwards.

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

I find the faux-concern "it's understandable that you're so traumatized, but have you thought about getting help to get past your PTSD?" shit even more infuriating than outright accusations of cowardice.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm one of those people that really enjoyed the lockdown but was terrified of dying.

Wish we could bring the lockdown back, honestly.

[–] TheDialectic@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We lost more people to covid than ww2. No one will acknowledge or care about trauma unless it is profitable. This is America.

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

as a percentage or just raw number?

[–] TheDialectic@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Raw, although covid is still putting up numbers so we will see. could be both

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

that's meaningless, you have to describe death tolls in terms of 9/11s per capita.

[–] dat_math@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

oof :(

and this is just official deaths due to covid in the usa

I'm not accounting for the excess deaths that the usa numbers ignore

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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still think about that time I had to get X-rays at the hospital, and I saw someone die in a shipping container in the parking lot that was turned into a makeshift hospital room, because the hospital was already at maximum capacity. The poor paramedics/EMS workers outside looked defeated in a way that I can't describe.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

I'm so sorry that sounds horrific deeper-sadness

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm just going to pretend they're not happening and leave it up to fate.

It's also incredible how indifferent a lot of people seem to be about their own possible deaths. Healthy society under capital, where you accept the risk of death or disability, because at least then you don't have to go to work tomorrow.

[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

the dead don't have to work retail

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

I'd argue it's more a sense of invincibility, one that many lost when they started dying of covid (others though still advised people not to take the shot even as they're dying)

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i lost a lot of respect for the established community organizations, broader public institutions, and the local small business tyrant community that all went mask off.

in a lot of ways, the powers have me on a chain and they yanked it to let me and others know that we are a resource to be sacrificed when the elites need treats. i guess i should say they reminded me, because i already knew this in the back of my mind and had been passively trying to arrange my life so i could have some buffer space. so really, i'm just more motivated to get into a different situation. i had grown somewhat complacent and had allowed myself to believe we could reform our way out of this reactionary hellscape.

covid has been a bleak reminder that our institutions will not save us and that they are adversarial to our goals. we must find our allies, build dual power / mutual aid networks based on immediate material needs. specifically, i have become far more antagonistic to the commodification of third places and actively boycott them while offering no-cost alternatives. my goal in life is to get to a point where i have a place to offer simple and nutritious free meals and space to a broader community of workers, a safe space for them to organize and learn, or even just revel in comradery. i haven't really figured it out yet, so far i'm just working on being efficient in the kitchen and adaptive organizational strategies that can scale but don't need to, and really only with my spare time/energy. pretty sure the key is going to be to make things that are simple and affordable (for me) but delicious and nutritious. it might just be a thing i am only able to do if i reach retirement or only offer to neighbors, coworkers, and family, but i would still find it fulfilling.

anyway, i don't have any answers. i spiraled for a while over the last years as i came to understand the institutional covid response (hypernormalization!), but now i'm trying to acknowledge the steps i've taken to realign myself since and stay focused on what is within my power. like hey, this site, right? we're off the corporate social media sphere sharing memes that would be banned. i'm also much more on-top of my vaccine booster schedule for flu, etc and even got my titres for all the common vax scheduling. and i've passed along relevant info to help others do the same (even under the most shitty ACA or private plan in the US, all vaccines on the schedule, including the titre tests to confirm antibodies are 100% covered by insurance with no copay... you just gotta ask).

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[–] TraumaDumpling@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Whenever people and the mainstream media talk about "The trauma of COVID" they always mean the lockdowns and not the... you know... millions of deaths.

WHAT FUCKING LOCKDOWNS!?!?!?!?

I WISH THERE HAD BEEN LOCKDOWNS!!!!

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[–] un_mask_me@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for saying the silenced part out loud, it's part of why I come here. I'm at a loss as to what to contribute, all I know is that I'm doing the best I can and I'm the only one I know who hasn't gotten it yet and who is still taking precautions. And I'm right there with you about trusting people, it has become Russian roulette in terms of covid, as least in my experience. Just knowing there are others out there experiencing this makes me feel a bittersweet pang. I'm glad there are others but I wish we weren't forced into this madness. Hugs, comrade <3

[–] Poogona@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Covid def left me psychically wounded in a way that I don't know if I'll ever fully recover from. I wrote a whole damn book to help myself deal with it and tbh the ENTIRE THING spawned from reading about how ants deal with pathogens by systematically cleaning each other every day to keep their population as resistant to infection as possible. By INSTINCT they showcase "we're only as healthy as everyone is." We are social creatures too, we form societies too, we divide up our labor too, how the fuck did we get so alienated from something as basic as "keep each other healthy?"

I had this terror at my core for a while during the pandemic, this emptiness that comes from seeing an animal with some horrific prion disease die in pointless agony. It was like my community, my species, my social superorganism, was looking at pieces of itself turning black and rotting off and just watching in resignation.

All those families collapsed, all those futures forever marked, all that meat offered up to mankind's true predators that lurk in the microscopic margins, and somehow our incredible superorganism recovers, so that it can torture itself again later.

[–] Kolibri@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

It is scary, its just like. How could they pretend that like nothing just happened? Like morgues being full that like freezer trucks have to be used. My mom worked in a part of healthcare. She saw what happened before dying last year from other stuff. Meanwhile like, my siblings? They downplay covid, refusing to even get vaccinated, and just like... It angers me. Especially since like my mom saw what covid did, and my mom tried encouraging my siblings to get vaccinated and take it seriously. But they just dismissed her after like the stuff she's seen. She also caught covid herself to a few times to and it got bad at a few points.

and I just don't know how. How do people ignore all this stuff or pretend like nothing happened?

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It make me feel insane to think about all the dead, it builds this feverish pressure in my head, like my psyche is bubbling with noxious mud that engulfs my ability to act or focus on anything else

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[–] eighthaccount@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

covid broke me. i constantly am grappling with how many people have left us since 2020. how they should still be here. how many more we will lose. the rest of us that very well could suffer from a shorter, needlessly challenging life. all because a small group of selfish removed couldn't sacrifice a month or two in quarantine.

maybe they just didn't understand the risk. for someone not informed i could see them brushing it off. i'm not sure who to blame exactly. i dont understand enough about humanity and the world to say definitively. was it the high priests of capital? the social fascists that refused to cancel their fancy parties? what about the fundamentalists that believe covid is a sign of the impending end of the world and thus hastened it forward? or is it me, who after spending the last 3 years avoiding covid, got infected because i just had to go see that show?

outside of a miracle cure and effective treatment for long covid, i have a hard time seeing things improving for humanity in my lifetime. anyone who has foresight seems to be on the same page. all talking about it does seem to do is depress the people around me - even those i know who agree. society seems to be warping and distorting rapidly to the point where i believe the average human life could become completely and unrecognizably cruel within a generation or two.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

i'm not sure who to blame exactly.

Those in positions of power (the super wealthy and the politicians they control). They have the responsibility to be informed and have a plan set up in waiting for events like this. They had been warned for decades by scientists that this would happen. Hell, I have a biology textbook from ten years ago talking about the inevitablity of a devistating pandmec and the steps that could be taken to prevent it.

Much like climate change, they knew the risks but chose greed. They purposefully muddied public opinion and responded weakly to the threat because they never intended to stop it. They decided millions dead was cheaper for them.

It was premeditated, homocidal negligence.

It's what happens when you have a society completely set up around serving capital instead of people.

The virus isn't unable to be eradicated. That's what those in power want you to believe because they don't want to try. They care more about money and power than the lives of "commoners" and much like climate change, they think "Let the poor die! It won't happen to me, I'm special and I have money to protect me."

Hell, I have a biology textbook from ten years ago talking about the inevitablity of a devistating pandmec and the steps that could be taken to prevent it.

This was a big train of thought in the early 2000s due to the SARS outbreak. I seem to recall that it was a talking point even by the end of Clinton's presidency.

I agree it is very much like what is going on with climate change. And of course, more pandemics. We learned nothing!

The virus isn't unable to be eradicated.

Well, it's endemic among wildlife now. Of course, we should still try to manage it among humans. But eradication might be tricky at this point.

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[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no spectacle, no liberal attention

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You would think trucks carrying away dead bodies was spectical enough for them.

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

or the mass graves. but that was all too long ago for them to remember now.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Never forget 9/11, never remember those who died from COVID. It's fucked up.

[–] charly4994@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Earlier this year we had COVID rip through our unit, half of our residents got it. Since it's a dementia unit it's nigh impossible to quarantine people because they either will come walking out and get aggressive if you try to keep them inside, or they'll find a way to fall. While most made it through the quarantine period, it still took its toll, we had 6 die within a few days of each other a bit after we were fully cleared on the unit, they just weren't able to make back out on the other side. To that end, there are a fair few people that now have chronic coughs and we had RSV hit a few weeks later. The ones that died were already pretty precarious but as of now we have a new group that's a bit more precarious and keeps getting sick.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

I do the whole :internally-screaming: thing a lot. Like just full on rage yelling monologues where my face contorts and I get myself into a mood and need to calm down. I'm very worried it's gonna slip out one day and lose the last few friends I have or get me kicked out of my family I live with.

And yeah, I totally think about world wars and the shit that they went through for years and then everybody around us threw away the lives of millions and are cutting their own short because they wanted to go to Olive Garden and fucking Disney World.

this-is-fine

[–] Rx_Hawk@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I will say if everybody was required to be masked and vaccinated, I wouldn’t be in favor of lockdowns surrounding outbreaks, but that is just not the case.

There is essentially nothing being done currently by the government to prevent spread.

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I will say if everybody was required to be masked and vaccinated

but mainly masked. We basically did a very large continental empirical experiment in 2020 vs. 2021-2024 and masks pwn the shit out of vaccines (both are good tho)

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[–] whatup@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I literally get (for lack of a better word) triggered when people talk about how hard it was to have to have to wear a mask or to not get a haircut or some selfish bullshit.

Same. I’ve found it helpful to remind myself that these people are unwitting victims of a very intense, incredibly well-funded and well-backed propaganda campaign whose murderous influence outweighs that of even the jingoism that followed 9-11. We entered a new, unexplored era of consent manufacturing for social murder during the pandemic.

[–] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, people simply embrace it. Empathy is hardly in our (western) culture. Many people really only think about the horror of masking or not being able to go on vacation when they remember the quarantine. https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/

[–] DyingOfDeBordom@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

I've probably had covid the past few days (idk respiratory symptoms + sinus problems + been in bed all day with insane fatigue for two days straight) and does my chef care about the possibility of me infecting everyone at this school? No he's all "do you even want this job" when i tried to warn him last night that i might be calling out the next day. Then calls to harass me this morning when yeah i called out. I spent all day in bed again

[–] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

My introvert ass what is in heaven during the quarantine. It’s absurd people don’t see that people literally dying was the bad part. I’m the only one around me that seems to realize it’s still out there.

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