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[–] the_itsb@hexbear.net 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is Lemmy.World racist ~~towards China~~?

yes

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lemmy.world is significantly further right than the average space on reddit because a considerably larger quantity of people exist on reddit that are left of liberal. Lemmy.world purged everyone that was left of liberal and defederated from everywhere that would seriously engage in pulling any content leftwards. This action causes it to be considerably further right than reddit.

Given that the answer to this question would be yes for reddit it is a given that under these conditions it is also yes for lemmy.world.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

.world's critiques of Hexbear are just the ”making up a guy in your head to get mad at” tweet. In their minds we're allied with Republicans because we both love Putin.

edit: I mean the bad kind of Republican before someone posts a funny jibe about the IRA and how the wrong side won in Spain.

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

anti-thatcher-action we accept your edit but you'll be watched for further offenses

[–] vger@lemmy.ml 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Almost all the Lemmy instances consist of imperial core labor aristocrats. They're Western chauvanists. Many of them are tech bros. Many lack class consciousness. They have poor media literacy skills while believing they have excellent skills. They consume their governments' and corporate media's propaganda uncritically, unaware that they’re being propagandized. Many of them are as rabidly anticommunist now as people were during the first Cold War.

They'll regurgitate:

  • pooh bear
  • tiananmen square
  • hong kong
  • famine
  • uyghur genocide
  • secret police stations
  • spy balloons
  • tiktok
  • havana syndrome
  • social media bots
  • taiwan
  • nine dash line
  • ghost cities
  • tibet
  • secret imprisonments & assassinations
  • great firewall
  • social credit score
  • technology theft
  • debt trap diplomacy
  • han superiority/replacement theory
[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ghost cities is so fucking funny because it's such an ape looking at monolith moment. A capitalist looks at a pre-planned modern city, with brand new apartment towers and state of the art infrastructure, and sees only a failure to maximize profits by gouging people for low-quality housing.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The Han Chinese one is something I wasn't even aware of but have had people mention to me previously. Where does that come from, exactly? Also, the "social credit score" one tickles a brainworms still, I know it's likely nothing like how it was described to me in the past, but I don't even know what the reality behind that one is.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Social credit scores, in so far as they aren't just a fabrication, are a way of policing businesses to keep them from doing anti-social practices. Private citizens don't have any kind of "state loyalty score," just a normal criminal record (or lack of one, of course)

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Got it, and considering every American believes themselves to be some temporarily embarrassed millionaire, they extrapolate that to mean ME, they want ME to have a social credit score!

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

It's not even that, they have no idea about it being for businesses. They just imagine the 1984 stasi assigning every individual citizen a numeric value that represents how the government judges them and then rewarding or penalizing them accordingly. It's seriously just a myth that people believe because "some guy said so" is all they need to believe something bad about China.

[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny, I was just denied housing today due to my social credit score being too low. I live in America by the way

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry to hear that, Patriot. Please approach the pew and give Ronald Reagan nine Hail Marys and eleven Pledges of Allegiance.

[–] vger@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don’t think Han supremacy/replacement theory has a singular origin. I think it comes from a confluence of:

  • Chinese state imperialism theory
  • Recycling of white supremacist great replacement theory
  • Projection of white supremacy itself
  • Rolling up Tibet/Uyghur/Hong Kong into one big undifferentiated ball of Han/CPC oppression


In fact quite the opposite has been happening thanks to China's affirmative action policies

[–] someone@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Many of them are tech bros.

This is why I'm a big advocate for genuinely easy-to-install, easy-to-maintain, self-hosted web services. Otherwise we leave the web largely in the hands of the techbros and the corporations.

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

excatly , also

Sauce

[–] CDommunist@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is [westerners online] racist towards China? Yes

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

nooooo noo they hate the government but love the people. even though the people love their government. no this doesn't mean they are being paternalistic toward asians. they just have a better sense of the ground truth nature of reality halfway around the world that they acquired entirely from cope youtube videos and internet comments written by people who also watched the same cope youtube videos. the inscrutable celestial brainpan just doesn't understand that democracy is when your democratic representatives have a seven percent approval rating.

[–] IMF_DOOM@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nooooo noo they hate the government but love the people.

But also if you hate the government of a country they like then suddenly you're an antisemite or an anti white racist (speaking from personal experience smh)

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, Racism is when you hate the multi-ethnic population of America because their leader is financing a genocide.

Also, wait, are they saying that being a Nationalist is like being a Racist but for Nation States? And not like a "White Nationalist" as in Nationalism?

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I think they are just treating "-ist" as meaning "bigot by distinction of"

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

It's those sudo-intellectual brainworms manifesting into reality.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

This is the same question as "Is Reddit racist?" The answer will always be yes.

[–] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

Yes, as are most westerners

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does a bear piss and shit where it pleases?

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Well, except for in Lemmy.world, since the fascists banned us from pissing and shitting there.

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

they are liberals so.... yeah

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago
[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago

Can't tell if this is a genuine question or not 🤣🤣🤣

[–] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago
[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

there is a general very racist bourgoise ideologie that includes basiclly everything hat was ever teached in offical institutions therefore one has to expect a general Baseline Racism in any general Forum. Its the hole purpose of the monstrous Maschine to produce it. And it does ..

But:

Dear citizens of the Hexbear Weltnetz Forum ... If you've lived to see the wonder of watching our blue planet from the depths of the cosmos, you see things differently. Up there, in the depths of space, the Brainwashed Masses Opinion seem Huge and Threathening . Our Hexbear Forum seems tiny. You ask yourself what its Shitposters have accomplished ? What they can acomplish ? Which objectives did we set, which objectives did we realize? Today is our Forums anniversary. It's a very little Space, seen from the cosmos. But still ! thousands of people came to us in last years. People who we looked to as enemies and who want to live with us today. We know our Website is not perfect. But what we believe in, inspires a lot of people in the whole world. Maybe we have drifted off course from time to time. But we collected ourselves. Socialist Shitposting doesn't mean walling yourself in and Defederating . Socialism means reaching out to others ! , and living with others ! . Not just to dream about a better world, but to make a better world. I have therefore decided to Strongly Opose all Further Defederation Attempsts.

[–] Yor@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Of course they are

[–] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Is the Ku Klux Klan racist to black people?