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Nintendo DMCA Notice Wipes Out 8,535 Yuzu Repos, Mig Switch Also Targeted. (torrentfreak.com)
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[–] androidisking@lemmy.world 128 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nintendo is one of the worst companies that always want to set an "example" about the DMCA. They don't realize they are fighting a battle they cannot win. Emulators are perfectly legal as long as the emulators don't contain any code that was in ownership from them.

That being said, I'm betting some of those forks were following the DMCA but Nintendo still shut them down. This is where copyright needs to be reevaluated.

I'm honestly not surprised they haven't gone after dolphin emulator since those devs contain the encryption keys to play the iso files.

[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, I agree with your general points, but I think part of the reason Nintendo is so harsh towards Yuzu is because, as far as I'm aware, Yuzu does actually contain proprietary code from Nintendo.

My understanding is that the Yuzu team used a Switch development kit instead of reverse engineering the Switch as they had claimed, so the entire code is essentially tainted because it's unclear which parts came from the development kit and which parts came from true reverse engineering

[–] Icalasari@fedia.io 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Part of the problem is they apply Japanese copyright law to an international level. Wouod be cool if they hit the wrong target, got sued for trying to apply their laws to the world stage, and got matched each time they appealed until their war chest got drained dry

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What Japanese copyright law? They sued Yuzu in a US court.

[–] Icalasari@fedia.io 4 points 1 year ago

In terms of their mentality, I mean

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The DMCA is a US law, so I don't see how you can say they're using Japanese law.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In Japan, there is no concept of "Fair Use", it's why they don't have a modding scene and why Japanese devs actively fight against people trying to mod their games. Nintendo uses DMCA on things that are clearly fair use (Parodies like SML, Nintendo themed mods on Garry's Mod), and people cave solely because they can't afford to go to court.

It's also literally a criminal offense in Japan to modify Pokemon data because tournaments in that scene are taken that seriously.

Or to be blunt, Nintendo abuses DMCA (an American Legal system) by applying it to things that would only be illegal in Japan, but are perfectly legal in America as it's outside of Japan, and since the courts only care about who has more money, no one's pointed this out as they'd have to do so in court in front of Nintendo's army of lawyers.

[–] Icalasari@fedia.io 4 points 1 year ago

In terms of their mentality, I mean

[–] calvinklein97@lemmy.dbzer0.com 80 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good luck trying to wipe my hard drive fuckers 🖕🏻

[–] Entropywins@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

27tb of pirated content and growing myself...keep doing gods work friend

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

don't give them ideas

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 42 points 1 year ago

Why are people continuing to host those on GitHub. MS had shown itself willing to take down anything at the drop of a hat.

If it's on GitHub, it's not yours.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Still torrents going around

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Idk what you mean...

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:IBBJLW4R2A224EJZLLIXKWVX4XOIW3YZ&dn=yuzu-full-archive&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopentracker.i2p.rocks%3A6969%2Fannounce
:)

Edit: Alternative straight torrent file: https://mega.nz/file/5lUl3IRR#pcxCxYYjCUY1DLCeZKVYKIX_siM4F2mPPRMqCk9r298

[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Broken magnet link

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Added a new link.
Last time I tried adding the torrent the magnet of OP also failed me. Dunno if it has to do with the client or aomething.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

There's a smiley at the end of the magnet. Remove that and it works

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And how do I push my commits to that?

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Based on your username and the fact you mentioned pushing commits to a project of such complexity I would assume you are not serious but in case you are, the point of the torrent is to keep the data available. You would have to download it and initialize a new repo with it and if you want you can host it wherever you like.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago

I'm big on pushing typo / indent fixes to famous repo in order to claim that I have worked on X, Y and Z in my CV

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We need forge federation. Nintendo would never be able to delete forks on thousands of different servers

[–] VintageTech@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've been trying to wrap my head around a decentralized git so I can release a pokemon rom hack.

[–] draughtcyclist@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But git is decentralized by design... Just self host.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 4 points 1 year ago

Yet nobody is going to discover your repo as nobody knows your server

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As another comment says, git is just the version control software. You mean a decentralized hub for sharing git repos I assume. Git hub/lab/whatever are just websites that share a link fundamentally. They also all store the data for your repo, but there's no reason that would need to be stored in the same place as the hub to find repos.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most ROM devs use xdelta or other patches to get around it, so you don't include the ROM.

[–] Metz@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did not get a e-mail but my fork is gone. That can't be legal can it? I'm in the EU.

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

It doesn’t matter where you are. The company is based in the US, so they’re required to follow local law

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why wouldn't it be legal?

[–] Metz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah i tend to forget that github is in the US and their allmighty DMCA can be used to take down anything. i just have a hard time believing this shit would fly in the EU.

[–] kernelle@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would, it has, next step after DMCA even in the EU is legal action, which nintendo already fought in court. I don't know about you but I'm not ready to defend someone else's code in court.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t know about you but I’m not ready to defend someone else’s code in court.

Errr... will you ever have to? Lol.

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[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The EU tends to be much harsher in these matters, though some members don't follow along.

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Again, why would it not fly in the EU?

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Emulation isn't illegal, reversing encryption isn't illegal, software patents aren't valid in some countries.

That's for example why the US can't do anything about VLC "breaking" DVD encryption, as they are based in France and aren't doing anything wrong.

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[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago

With DMCA get uploader is supposed to get notified and get a chance to file a counter claim

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

Glad the version of Yuzu I have downloaded is apparently a really good, performant, and stable one.

Bless these devs. They did god's work.

[–] 5PACEBAR@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I was one of them. Got the email from GitHub yesterday around noon. Took them long enough

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