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[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Spain isn't highlighted for any of á, é, í, ó, ú. Any other mistakes people notice?

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The Netherlands should be highlighted for ë but isn't

[–] hyves@feddit.nl 7 points 2 years ago (5 children)

ï, ö, ü, ä as well (as a diaeresis, not an umlaut)

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[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago

And for à, as in "30 à 50 wilde varkens".

[–] oktoberpaard@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Also é and è: crème, café, etc. Words that originate from France, but they’re used in the Netherlands as well. We also use the accent aigu for emphasis. Also ê for maîtresse, crêpe, etc.

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[–] rautapekoni@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago

They've split Finland pretty arbitrarily into areas where (supposedly) Swedish speakers are found for 'å', but there's really no reason for it. The letter is a part of the Finnish alphabet and taught to everyone in school, so it should cover the whole country I think.

Ireland should be highlighted for Éé

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

All Polish letters are included. But I don't understand, why a small piece of the ocean is marked along with Poland in "Ż".

Edit: I checked, it's Malta.

[–] Johandea@feddit.nu 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it excludes it because é is only used in words from french and not swedish words.

[–] Johandea@feddit.nu 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But some words aren't spelt with é in French. Tupé (toupee) is spelt toupet in French. The word is a loanword, but the letter isn't.

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is there a higher resolution version of this?

[–] Servais@dormi.zone 5 points 2 years ago

Are you viewing this version? Sometimes preview links get funky

https://files.catbox.moe/4t2rzv.png

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Greek be like "Μην τολμήσεις να πείς οτι χρησιμοποιούμε Λατινικά!"

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

The Griko people in southern Italy use Latin alphabet though.

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[–] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Scharf S ẞuperiority

[–] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Weird that France has both œ and æ. I only ever saw the latter in Nordic languages, but apparently it is occasionally used in French.

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

æ is in purely Latin words like ex æquo, et cætera, or curriculum vitæ, that's all. œ appears in œil (eye) so you see that a lot more commonly already, but I can't think of any other word that uses it off the top of my head (beside other derivated words like œillères). (pardon the puns)

[–] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

œuf and chœur as well, I suppose? Though I don't know if that is how they are commonly spelled

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago
[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

You're correct. Chœur is chorus and cœur is heart BTW.

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

Sœur is pretty common too. And bœuf.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Which means that æ ends up also appearing in English in those same Latin words (although they're possibly more lax with alternate spellings).

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

It appears (but now rarely) in the very English and not at all Latin word encyclopædia.

[–] CuriousRefugee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wikipedia gives examples of "curriculum vitæ" and "et cætera." We use those both as loanwords in English, but I've only seen it as the separate letters "ae," not the ligature æ.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I assume direct loanwords are excluded from the list.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

The Nordic languages use ö or ø instead, in Swedish also ä is used instead of æ.

[–] notsofunnycomment@mander.xyz 6 points 2 years ago

Ëë is definitely also used in the Netherlands

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Team ß 😎

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago

Nobody:

Spain: Ññ

[–] edinbruh@feddit.it 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm Italian and I've never in my life seen "î", I wouldn't even know how to read it

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

According to German Wikipedia it is old spelling and thus, no wonder you didn't come across it:

In Italian, the circumflex used to be used primarily in the pluralisation of words with a final -io to mark the coincidence of two -ii: il principio "the principle" → i principî, in contrast to i principi, the plural of il principe "the prince". In addition to principî, there was also the full spelling principii, which was not pronounced correctly. Today, the words for "principles" and "princes" are spelt principi without distinction.

(translated using DeepL)

According to the English article, it is also used in Emilian and Friulian. In both, a long vovel is indicated with a circumflex.

[–] edinbruh@feddit.it 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

But I have come across other old spellings, like "j" used in diphthongs in place of "i", like in "jeri" (old spelling for "ieri", "yesterday") or in "naja" (old word for compulsory military service time). So it must be even older/rarer than that, and I would still say "j" it's not an Italian letter because nobody uses it exept to write "Jesolo" but that's a name, not a regular word.

Fun fact: because of the old usage of "j" some text to speech are "broken". The one on railway speakers always reads "RailJet" as "Railiet" which sounds funny.

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[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago

Diaereses and grave accents are used in English too, strictly speaking, just not seen very often because English typing apparatus tends to lack a way of typing them easily.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%88 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%8B https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/co%C3%B6perate

[–] Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Czech and Slovakian so similar lol

[–] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's so similar it's basically two accents of one language...

[–] illi@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nowhere near that similar. But close second.

[–] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

It's more similar than Scottish English to California English.

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[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Whoever made this, thanks for including Iceland

[–] luciole@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh thank the gods for UTF-8

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

That's just the encoding, you want to thank unicode.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Now do the same but sort by country.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 2 points 2 years ago

á, é, í, ó, ú are all used in Spanish, but not listed, which is confusing.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Isn't œ in danish too?

Also é is used in swedish written language but it's not in their alphabet.

And ö is after z 😭

😁

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[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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