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[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 221 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Re-Enabling the dislike button would help too

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree but there's also an add-on for that

[–] kellenoffdagrid@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 1 year ago

Yeah but it's not that accurate, and it leaves most normal mobile users out of the picture. I know YouTube knew exactly what they were doing when they removed dislikes, but it still seems absolutely insane to remove such a useful tool for sifting through the bullshit.

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[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 113 points 1 year ago (8 children)

So now we have to read a community note to know a video is garbage instead of just seeing a massive dislike bar and clicking off?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't they take away the dislike button?

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The removed the dislike count a couple years ago, so you can no longer see if a video is terrible.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (11 children)

"Return YouTube Dislike" extension for Firefox and Chrome.

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[–] Concave1142@lemmy.world 99 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I feel like this is what the comment section is used for.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can the channel owner delete comments on their videos?

[–] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, as well as automatically hiding new comments.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

which is unfortunate, i think YT does it to save paid labor on moderating comments, but this allows video posters to upload misleading info and delete correcting replies, which also pairs well with hidden thumbs down

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It also allows uploaders to stop hate filled posting, like incels trashing the comments on anything positive about female characters in media.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It also allows uploaders to stoke hate with their videos and delete reasonable takes and people calling out misinformation in the comments.

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, I'd rather the channel have the first say here. It would be even better if some independent mod team could override channel owners though if there are enough reports.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Enough reports is how brigades are effective.

There isn't a great solution that solves all the possibilities, it is a difficult problem. An independent mod team sounds great until you get into the details of how they are formed and the fact that they are people too who might miss nuance or hold their own shitty opinions.

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[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 12 points 1 year ago

And Youtube will 100% allow creators to hide notes, as well. Corporations will not allow themselves to be criticized on their own pages.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I value my mental health too much to regularly dive into the YouTube comment section

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[–] sunzu@kbin.run 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

another chance to provide free labour to train their AI!

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure the annotations will be intelligent and insightful...

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah clearly training data does get much review for these peasant facing products. I am assuming real tool will take legions of pros to properly tune up.

The issue not LLM per we, the issue is that none of these clown companies appear to do Amy data quality control. They just rush whatever janky thing they got to drive headlines.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't they take away crowd-sourced subtitles before?

[–] Tixanou@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Damn I miss those. Nowadays it's really hard to find a video that's in another language and has subtitles. The only subtitles you will find are the automatically-generated ones, which suck

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[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This sounds like a great spot for scammers to flood for maximum visabilty. It'll be too much effort to moderate, so creators will just disable them (if they can) or this will be shut down in about (checks YouTube's history of dealling with scammers) 3.5 years.

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago

That’s not going to go wrong at all.

[–] jayandp@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, if this is basically Twitter's Community Notes feature, but for YouTube, I'm all for it. Bit of a balancing act, but it's the last thing that hasn't been completely wrecked now that Twitter became Xitter.

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[–] SouthFresh@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I give this about two weeks before they realize that it's as effective at helping their advertising as having dislike buttons are.

I am not condoning poisoning of this well of information, but I will laugh my ass off when it inevitably occurs.

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[–] neclimdul@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So we can explicitly graffiti videos but we can't add translations. 🤯

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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

This is just for training AI.

[–] cornshark@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Wait, didn't this feature already exist for years and then was shut down??

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol, considering the “quality” content in the comments section it’s just going to be a continuation of that dumpster fire.

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[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

I miss when Youtube had community sourced subtitles and those little annotations on the video...

[–] Emmy@lemmy.nz 12 points 1 year ago

Time to scrape notes data for ai

[–] db2@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah that'll end well I'm sure.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago

It's our duty to describe all videos as pizza glue recipes.

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