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I am confused, Biden is both infirm and spent his first term basically governing like a bog standard republican
this post was submitted on 30 Jun 2024
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The same applies to Trump.
I don't know anything about the first tweet but isn't the joke, the one that went over the replier's head, that either applies to both candidates?
Trump doesn't fit the label of infirm to the degree that Biden does, sure, but the Democrat supporters have spent about the past 8 years describing all the ways that Trump is himself infirm. Seems odd that this guy forgot all about that, just as much as he seems to have forgotten how Biden has governed in his first term.
Thomas Zimmer is some super-earnest rando lib I follow on Bluesky for laughs. His followup ~~tweets~~ erm... I mean posts.
That’s also why this camp of leftwing intellectuals is stubbornly refusing to engage seriously with the fascism argument and the radicalizing tendencies on the Right. Their overriding concern is a political struggle against what they believe is the real enemy: The (neo-) liberal elites.
In their view, Liberals are using the “fascism” bogeyman as a way to distract from their own culpability; to discipline the Left into accepting a popular front under liberal leadership; to reinvigorate the (neo-) liberal project by conjuring fears of the ultimate evil.
To them, the fascism talk is intended to make people flock to the liberal cause; to expand power by using tyrannophobia as a way of entrenching liberal rule. It’s all just liberal dishonesty, self-exculpation, and self-aggrandizement that needs to be opposed aggressively.
The problem is that their devotion to this anti-liberal struggle has led them to propagating positions that are completely untethered from what is happening on the Right – sophistry in defense of a premise that is utterly at odds with empirical evidence.
To be very clear: I am not criticizing “the Left,” which doesn’t exist as a monolithic bloc. My issue is with this specific camp, and as much as they like to pretend they do, they really don’t represent “the Left.” In fact, they hate lefties who disagree with them at least as much as “the Libs.”
He also links to a post on his Substack.
I like how he doesn't talk about what the liberals have actually done (or more specifically haven't done) to combat this so-called 'distinct change' on the Right. We've said it again and again, but for a system that is supposedly on the brink of tyranny, they sure are nonchalant about it.
Also, claiming that we are refusing to engage seriously with the fascist argument is hilarious.
"Who built the cages?" "Who sent the bombs?"
Fuck them both. Fuck this guy for thinking he's any different.
Can you tell him that he's the fascists, and we don't care which flavor of hitler ends up in the white house?
IDK obviously he's a lib but I think his take is broadly correct. I think a "big standard republican" is quantitatively way more dangerous than a corpse who is essentially puppeted by lanyards.
Like obviously there's no coherent argument why Biden should even be allowed to remain being president but the unhinged psychopathy of standard republicans is clearly more damaging.
Oh i thought the bog standard republican was biden.
yeah, if, for example, Bernie had decided to double down on a crusade against the democratic party and run again, while openly undergoing cognitive decline, I would be voting for him, and advocating that others do too. ultimately the importance of the figure of the president is more symbolic than anything.
So, they've entered their corpse god period
Empirical evidence is basically whatever i choose to believe is true
literally lol
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Thomas Zimmer is some super-earnest rando lib I follow on Bluesky for laughs. His followup posts.
That’s also why this camp of leftwing intellectuals is stubbornly refusing to engage seriously with the fascism argument and the radicalizing tendencies on the Right. Their overriding concern is a political struggle against what they believe is the real enemy: The (neo-) liberal elites.
In their view, Liberals are using the “fascism” bogeyman as a way to distract from their own culpability; to discipline the Left into accepting a popular front under liberal leadership; to reinvigorate the (neo-) liberal project by conjuring fears of the ultimate evil.
To them, the fascism talk is intended to make people flock to the liberal cause; to expand power by using tyrannophobia as a way of entrenching liberal rule. It’s all just liberal dishonesty, self-exculpation, and self-aggrandizement that needs to be opposed aggressively.
The problem is that their devotion to this anti-liberal struggle has led them to propagating positions that are completely untethered from what is happening on the Right – sophistry in defense of a premise that is utterly at odds with empirical evidence.
To be very clear: I am not criticizing “the Left,” which doesn’t exist as a monolithic bloc. My issue is with this specific camp, and as much as they like to pretend they do, they really don’t represent “the Left.” In fact, they hate lefties who disagree with them at least as much as “the Libs.”
He also links to a post on his Substack.
I've seen a few "Regan was senile and that didn't matter and he crushed Mondale" jokes on Bluesky. Libs are a trip. Here's an example.
That Reagan was senile was a running SNL joke and someone should ask President Mondale how that worked out
So they admit that Biden is Reagan 2.0?
The debate broke their - cough - brains.
They got sharp shock and were reminded that they put all their eggs in one basket of denial by ignoring the public telling them over and over and over and over again Biden's too old. This is true even for the dems lecturing people on social media. As they pontificate that sky isn't falling - they are confronted with the reality Biden is too old. There's no denying it any more. If Biden has a couple more "bad days" - his goose could be cooked on election day.
The situation remind of a scene from Being John Malkovich. Malkovich has just taken a trip inside his own head and to somebody (John Cusack?) he says something like "I've seen things nobody should ever see!"
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Ninja edit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2fVfIejbfM&t=224s
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