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https://www.reddit.com/r/TooAfraidToAsk/comments/1dssr87/if_trump_or_the_republican_party_is_actually_that/

lol, exactly the kind of laughable response I expected.

The whole thread is a gold mine.

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[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

arbitrarily

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The only political ideology the United States has committed to banning in the United States is communism.

According to the State, everything else is perfectly allowable. frothingfash

[–] Spongebobsquarejuche@hexbear.net 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

America doesn't ban opinions or invoke legal morality in such ways just because people have different opinions from your own.

Ban a political ideology? May as well teach my iPhone to eat a cheeseburger. maybe-later-kiddo

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 33 points 11 months ago

LIB

Paradox of Tolerance? Never heard of it. Just be sure to vote

[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I like the person who introduced a terrible analogy about an iphone eating a hamburger, and when you respond with real historic precedent they just continue to say "no that would never work in my analogy you don't get it"

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago

I still can't get over that one.

Revoking a potential Hitleresque person's citizenship? "iphones can't eat cheeseburgers!"

[–] naom3@hexbear.net 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The actual answer btw is that you can’t revoke anyones citizenship if they were born in the u.s. It’s actually kinda interesting and goes back to slavery and the dred scott decision, where the supreme court ruled that slaves and their decedents couldn’t be citizens. In response, after the civil war when they were drafting the 14th amendment they added the “citizenship clause” which granted automatic citizenship to everyone born in the united states. So basically because the point of this amendment was to give certain people citizenship regardless of what congress or the government say, the supreme court later ruled in Afroyim v Rusk that congress can’t revoke the citizenship of anyone born in the us. Although, interestingly, the court later ruled in Rogers v. Bellei that congress could revoke the citizenship of someone born outside the us to american parents since that citizenship doesn’t come from the citizenship clause

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 31 points 11 months ago

Revoke a citizenship with this one weird trick

Constitutional scholars hate it!

obama-drone

[–] Pisha@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago

There is literally precedent that the president can just order the killing of anyone in the world if it's for "national self-defense". The democrats' attitude of despair just isn't matched by the actions taken by their leaders.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

"We're better than that."

My brother in christ we have a shit ton of nuclear weapons. If "going high" means giving the keys of the Armageddon car to a maniac you are being an irresponsible dipshit and threatening everyone at the same time. You're a suicide bomber with extra steps.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Liberals are married to “the meek shall inherit the earth.”

They think that if they just lie down and take it for all their lives, it will translate to good boy points and they’ll have the last laugh.

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They’re married to American imperialism and all the treats it entails. There’s no evil they’ll not make peace with as long as they remain materially comfortable.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

Why do I keep forgetting these people are hypocrites?

I live in Ohio (not by choice) and it fills me with dread that the lifestyle that’s forced upon me is so unsustainable. Why would I not want to live in a world that aligns with my values?

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People in Chile celebrate 9/11

This person has managed to say something sort of true (Chilean people commemorate 9/11 because of the coup and the bloodshed that came with it), for the absolutely wildest wrong reason. It's hilarious that this person thinks people in Chile remember 9/11 because it was bad for the US while the US was the one making the Chilean 9/11 happen in the first place.

What a fascinating mind.

[–] robinnn@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

OP is the one who made the post saying this.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Exhibit A that liberals don't believe a single word of the horseshit they spew

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

Noam Chomsky nailed it when he said that of course the media swings “liberal” because the whole point is “this is how left-wing you’re allowed to be.”

Of course we are permitted to disagree with them, sure, but we have to be total dipshits that tacitly believe that chuds are superhuman gods superior to us in every way.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago

Honestly the fact that the post has a zero rating (they can't be negative) tells me my suggestion upset them more than what Trump is promising to do.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago

Banning political ideologies is based if it's the right ones. Revoking citizenship and creating stateless people IS bad but these people were all for it when it was teenage girls who got recruited by ISIS so fuck these hypocritical civility scolds.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago

You gave away the game by using the term "Global South." You should've said that the electors should cast their ballot for Biden regardless if their state has a majority of Trump votes.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago

So America is a two-party democracy where

  1. One of those parties is fascist and trying to install a fascist dictatorship
  2. The fascist party will enact said dictatorship only after accumulating enough power through elections
  3. The fascist party will abide by the result of elections that are not in their favor
  4. Any actions to reduce the ability of the fascist party to participate in elections is undemocratic
  5. Anyone exercising their democratic right to vote for the fascist party is contributing to the end of democracy (via item 1) but cannot be prevented from doing so by any means other than cajoling on social media.

This make sense to everyone?

[–] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 20 points 11 months ago

Drone striking a citizen suspected of terrorism because they’re a potential threat of small scale violence?

pineapple-surf

Drone striking an immediate threat to the entire nation and liberalism itself?

sadness-abysmal

[–] HelluvaBottomCarter@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago

Good to know the oppression of the marginalized is an arbitrary reason.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago

Just completely unserious fools.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago
[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago

I think the actually interesting part of this is how delicately they insist Republicans be handled vs the barbarism they recommend against other countries (or will at least justify once the barbarism has been done). Trump? Must be protected. Qaddafi? Tortured to death in a hole in the ground. Democracy.

[–] Skeleton_Erisma@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

nerd maybe-later-honey "because arbitrarily blah blah blah blah im so fuckin smart big brain! peepeepoopoo wait until 2025" nerd maybe-later-honey

Smug sniffing fart attitude on full display proudly flaunted as if their treat brunch loving liberal bullshittery isn't going to empower fascists and make this 2025 shit inevitable.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

With how liberals approach fascists it's no wonder why the so easily took power 100 years ago. It's pure cowardice.

The willingness by the population to go along with fascism seems comical. I mean, one half believes fascism is leftist because their media told them so, and you can't call anyone who disagrees with the left a fascist! Then the other half of the country believes opposing fascists is authoritarian and out of 1984 gommulism :smuglord: .

[–] pelletbucket@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

that guy might have been on your side

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who cares? The us electoral system is a farce, no meaningful democracy exists. Read what they're saying. They won't support any action against the gop except putting a piece of paper in a box. And that's purely symbolic except in, what, a couple of counties in Pennsylvania? Who would want that person on their side? What would they contribute to the struggle?

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

And have they seen the right? Go on /pol/ or Twitter and you’d be hard-pressed to find anyone trying to discuss ways to encourage leftists to move to the right. Yet they’re winning culture war after culture war.

They know they don’t need to groom the next Mussolini out of any of us, anyone who could possibly go from left to fash will do so on their own.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago

Just one more step to the right, bro... I promise I won't move further right...

  • Rep to Dem...
[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

Alexa, show me someone who has no material incentive to oppose fascism