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look I don't have enough wifi to look up electoral results and french people won't talk to me, but some of the meals I've had in alpine refuges this week have been the best meals I may have ever had

I am also so wine-drunk and so exhausted from being the fastest hiker I have encountered on the TMB. These may influence my opinions

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[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Any country's food is good if prepared correctly

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I could be wrong, but the French people I've met have been the most resistant to going vegan than any race I've even met. It's like all the pigeon and frog and goose they're eating causes them to be unable to eat tofu.

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reminds me of this [cw: mention of f*sting]

[–] Azarova@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

oh, you did not mean fasting lmao

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't even think of that

Dead laughing now agony-consuming

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

I'd rather fist than fast, tbh

[–] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

I thought the same

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

I've met plenty of Spanish people who seemingly can't comprehend that chicken isn't vegetarian.

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[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

French cuisine is a very complicated way of chugging a whole carton of heavy cream. Sure, it tastes pretty good, but: why?

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

it tastes pretty good

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

You've heard of the gallon of milk a day diet, well im on that carton of cream grind

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Italian food is 10x better.

Honestly in terms of everything I'd argue Italy is better than France. Prettier country, better food, better wine, more interesting history and culture. Idk why people jerk off France so much when Italy is right there, I'd travel to Italy over France any day.

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

name 1 thing italian that comes from Italy though berdly-smug

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Name one thing from anywhere that originally came from that place 100% with no outside influence. You'll maybe get like three dishes from Iran and that's maybe it.

Sounds like italian cope!

[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'll watch the history shows about ancient Roman food it all looks good as hell

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've never felt fear for my life like I have when driving in Italy, whereas France is only occasionally a little scary, so that's one thing.

Saying Italy is prettier is something I would contest as well, they both have stunning sections of the Alps and rolling Mediterranean countryside, it's not easy to tell where Italy starts and France ends without the signposts.

Italian food I think is a little nicer, but it's a close contest and French Vs Italian wine I would say goes the other way.

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[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Italy is the first Euro country I'm going to when I get the chance. I will walk around Napoli for days and eat until I fucking explode.

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[–] Omegamint@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Out of like classic western foods it’s pretty good, lots of focus on fresh bread, wine, and cream. Personally I think it’s pretty overrated but I think a lot of westerners with underdeveloped palates are happy to land on the sort of rich and creamy bases that a lot of French food has. I do think that it really has created a concept of high-class dining that seems to preclude the use of animal product (I love cooking and it wasn’t until I start cooking more Indian and Asian food that I realized that a lot of my ideas of incorporating meat and animal product into my diet was simply due to this).

[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I encountered some dipshit on social media years ago that claimed he could never stop eating animals or their products because they were required for authentic france-cool cuisine.

[–] Omegamint@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah really I think it’s not good that this cuisine that’s so meat/diary focused is elevated to this status of being sort of revered. Like conceptually I think French food is all about taking these base flavors that were available in the west and figuring out how to dial them up to a 10, and you can still keep that spirit, but the sort of reverence for how is it has to be done “right” keeps people from experimenting.

And yeah people also just suck. I did a French night at my house with my roommates and decided to do ratatouille in the style of the movie and I had one friend just fucking hate it and shit on it. And then he said he hated French food and I told him I could’ve easily just done meat in a wine sauce and you’d love it but you’re not even giving this a fair chance. Like try not to be pissy because we didn’t have some stereotypical meat centerpiece

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[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

French people have good food.

Hard disagree.

The French are not people.

Their food is pretty good though.

[–] Skeleton_Erisma@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

tbf outside of cajun or indigenous meals - most american food is ass and the quality of ingredients is even worse.

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

It really is amazing how much they managed to accomplish with flour, milk, and the occasional egg.

It makes me wonder what could be accomplished if chefs spent 300 years making the fanciest food possible out of, like, some seed or nut or tuber.

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Unacceptable Opinion

maddened

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not hard to have good food when your definition of good is "I have covered this thing in a butter sauce"

haha hell yeah sicko-pig

[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Putting butter on everything doesn't count as real food.

[–] Ossay@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what is this anti-butter stance i see often on hexbear

unless it's for vegan reasons butter is good and you can stay mad about it

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[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

French food slaps. Shame it's overly pretentious a lot of times

Italian food is the most overrated shit ever. America needs to convert all its Italian restaurants into French ones tbh

I tell you hwut, nobody's eating at a restaurant called The ITALIAN Laundry

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

French food just makes me wish I was eating Latine food, leaving me totally unfulfilled.

[–] Gorillatactics@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

France tried making a metric system for food quality. This made french cuisine synonymous with quality and paved the way for an inevitable backlash.

What is the TMB?

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[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

how can thwre be a struggle about this, french food is delicious, especially the pastries and bread. i'm no francophile but this feels like a one-sided argument

Death to America

[–] gramxi@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like the big bread stick

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[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

French people have good food, but the whole palette of Chinese cuisine is far more diverse imo, very much not afraid of a char and a skewer. French food is interesting because of how much a single item and it's products are used in any given dish, but overall flavor profile is not acidic enough imo.

[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

well yeah, china is a continents worth of cuisine, of course they have more diversity than any given country in "europe"

Death to America

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[–] dudes_eating_beans@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't like butter, meat, bread, or wine so that doesn't leave me with much options in fr*nch "cuisine"

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

me: "Is there anything on the menu without wine

waiter:

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[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

French food is true Fatboy Food. It's like the yank who salivates over a triple bacon burger knew what herbs were.

Its for sure better than anything else in northern Europe but thats not saying much.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

alpine

nerd I think you're actually eating Swiss cuisine...

Btw, doesn't every culture at least have a broken clock, when it comes to good food?

[–] LaBellaLotta@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Counter struggle session: a lot of the best techniques of the French and their sauces have their origins in the kitchen of the feudal Italian peasant.

The French simply lifted it and added the bourgeois decadence of butter and edible flowers. There are some undeniably French things, and they came up with a lot of the vocabulary.

I have done no research to support this thesis but it is an opinion I hold strongly. It makes sense when you consider the trajectory of the Napoleonic era through Italy and I WILL willfully disregard any facts pointing to the contrary because of my biases that are mine and I’m allowed to have them.

All agreement and supporting Information is welcome I will not be responding to any questions from haters OR losers.

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[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm probably the best at cooking French stuff just because it's easy af, just load stuff up with butter and cream and savory herbs, thyme and rosemary and all that jazz, don't have to worry about balancing spiciness or complicated flavors just throw a bunch of garlic and onion in there. Ez

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

What dishes did you have?

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