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[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

But then i wouldn't be around sadness

But....then i wouldn't be around lea-happy

[–] aaro@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago

but then you wouldn't be around deeper-sadness

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago

To the rhythm of "Fullmetal Alchemist"

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, the missile gap was way too large at that point. USSR would have been totally destroyed while the USA would probably still exist. Western Europe would be toast though...

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 17 points 10 months ago

Yeah yeah, and the paris commune should have marched on versailles we know /s

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago

When you're right, you're right.

[–] Skeleton_Erisma@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago

CMV.. commercial motor vehicle?

clueless (bear with me I'm getting trained to drive a bus)

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago

If it was certain to be a Dien Bien Phu-esque operation, then goddamn he should've...

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago

I mean, yeah

[–] ComradeRat@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fidel wanted to but cornman was a coward

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Did Fidel actually want to or just want to have them defensively?

I know Che was all about nuclear accelerationism though. I thought they disagreed.

[–] ComradeRat@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Screenshots from Fidel's autobiography, tldr (at least as I read it) is that Fidel wanted Cornman to nuke the US if there was any invasion of Cuba.

Fidel wrote to cornman on 26 october (27 october in russia) telling him to send nukes if he thinks an invasion is going to happen

Cornman wrote back on the 28th, basically telling fidel to chill bc he wants peace

And Fidel wrote again to Cornman the same day telling him that he will not chill cuba is in danger

Cornman replied on the 30th with a lotta platitudes (Cornman thought he won the missile crisis lol) but most relevant here is him saying fidel's "send the nukes" idea was wrong

Fidel's reply (Oct. 31) shows what he thought of Cornman's 'victory':

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

Thank you!

That was helpful. Yeah, it seems he didn't want preemptive strikes but defensive or retaliatory was more his style, which matches what I remembered.

[–] mars@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago

Castro did send a message to Moscow indicating he was willing to sacrifice the island to nuke the US, but I think it's pretty clear he was just frustrated with the fact that the USSR and US weren't involving Cuban leadership enough in general, and was basically just trying to get Moscow's attention. At least that's what I remember, it's been a long time since I read about it though

[–] Hewaoijsdb@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago
[–] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

No one will CYV here, comrade.