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Just something MAGA-people seem to have a hard time with sometimes. Probably not as much when Americans are speaking to themselves, but as a non-American, sometimes it's challenging to get "those people" to admit that there is indeed anything wrong with the US. As in they won't accept a single criticism, and will loudly proclaim "America is the greatest country in the world", while wearing a "Make America Great Again" hat, which for me pretty explicitly means America isn't great, if it has to be made to be such again.

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[–] maxenmajs@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You have to understand that they are not intellectually honest. They have no issues knowingly dwelling in a false narrative. The false narrative serves to normalize their movement and recruit people as they publicly repeat it unchallenged amongst each other.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Oh I do.

https://howtobeastoic.wordpress.com/2016/01/19/one-crucial-word/

I understand they're willfully ignorant, but I can't honestly understand what makes them feel the need to do it. I understand reasons for it, but the deep meaning behind being like that... eludes me. And I've been thinking on this for at least a few decades.

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It also means that it once was great but it also completely abdicates any responsibility for defining when that great period was in our timeline?

Was it great in the 50s when institutional racism was the law and a black girl going to college was justification for rolling out the national guard?

Was it great in the 70s when we were fighting in Vietnam for literally no reason?

Like what time period are they talking about?

Maybe they mean in the late 40s when we were rolling off the high of winning world war II? And the great majority of men had died to the point where wage inflation made even moderately capable men comparatively wealthy to today's standard?

Is make America great again really just a code to try to start and win world war III so that 20% of all males in America would die and therefore the surviving 80% would have more luxuries given to them by default?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Is make America great again really just a code to try to start and win world war III so that 20% of all males in America would die and therefore the surviving 80% would have more luxuries given to them by default?

Well, me being 40, without any military experience, I have no reason to think I'd ever be in the 20%. So by this logic, I would recieve more luxeries in my life.

That being said, fuck that.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There was never anything "great" about the US - unless you believe that the world's largest experiment in white supremacism is (somehow) "great."

[–] beefbaby182@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I can promise you with 100% certainty that we aren't all white supremacists

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

The meme works as a double dog whistle. Simpletons find camaraderie in nostalgia while actual traitors recognize and organize around the damage they intend to cause.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

I can't believe it hasn't been mentioned.

Stephen Colbert has a book titled America Again: Re-becoming the Greatness We Never Weren't

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago
[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Correct. It won’t be great again until women are forced into the kitchen and slavery returns.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago

You really should remember the "/s" with comments like these, imho.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Always assume they are like terror billy dad. They want the nazis to round up everyone.

https://youtu.be/3tJRVRx66GI?si=qLfvdiP6r1BrjJ6t

[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Kinda cray it didn't happen the first 4 years of Trump's presidency, huh?

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

Well the nazis are all out now. That's step q for that lot.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yes, actually. Hell, lemmy will tell you that rent is sky high, wages are too low, theres not enough workers rights, just everything is fucked.

The MAGA solution is just different than the left wing solution.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

The MAGA solution is just different than the left wing solution.

So different that it in no way, shape, or form solves anything.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

The MAGA solution is just different than the left wing solution.

Lol! What "left wing" solution?

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