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[–] 0Empty0@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If you've never read up on the late bronze age collapse, I suggest you do it if you feel like being depressed.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Where are my sea people homies at?

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Got any good links? You've piqued my curiosity.

[–] 0Empty0@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2fp6O8oAYbegrMqVnbjZju?si=EN908Q5SQw2Ol0vNljyfIA

The Bronze Age Collapse, Fall of civilizations podcast does an excellent job going in depth about it.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 1 points 2 years ago
[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I swear to god I will commit war crimes if olives disappear

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's a lot of people way ahead of you on the whole "committing war crimes in response to climate change" thing

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

True that and they have my full support. (only slightly a joke)

[–] cloaker@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago

Oh my god, half the 5 year average. Great great great. Great for farmers, great for prices. We are fucked.

[–] exohuman@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The climate where you can grow these types of things is shifting and industry needs to shift with it. There will be new places that are conducive to growing that crop (that probably used to not be) and we will need to grow them there.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Olive trees take decades to grow to harvest size, I hope we've started already....

[–] Nyarlathotep@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Not really, superintensive olive tree plantations in Spain grow to harvest size in about 3 years. It uses a lot of water though.

[–] qtj@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

People have started planting Olives in austria and even germany allready. Eventhoug I think it is more experimental still.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

But then you get the crowd complaining about nonnative plants being planted in the new areas lol

[–] Serisar@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's already constantly out of stock and when it's available it's at least +50% of the regular price. (Germany)

[–] sznio@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't know the prices now, but half a year ago in Poland olive oil was cheaper than any other oil and significantly cheaper than butter. Like 6€ a liter.

[–] Serisar@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

At least sunflower and rapeseed oil are back at a somewhat reasonable level, about 2-2,50€/l. Still way more expensive than pre-pandemic but the prices right after the invasion were just ridiculous, as you said, right up there with olive oil.