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Uniting for Internet Freedom: Tor Project & Tails Join Forces | Tor Project (blog.torproject.org)

submitted 8 months ago by TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Dream come true. Finally some good news for us substance enjoyers. With localmonero gone and TG selling out to the glowies, it's good to see not all is lost.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You know Haveno-reto has been running since LocalMonero shut down and many early bugs have been squashed right? Buying Monero peer-to-peer is still doable and the trades per day is increasing all the time. We are currently doing an average of 7 transactions per day and last month it was 5.7. The month before that it was 4.8.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No, I have literally never heard of Haveno-reto. Most people back around the shutdown were just saying everyone should use atomic swaps. Thanks for the heads up.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago

Glad i could help

[+] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

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[–] Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I've been out of the game for a few years, who's TG?

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 7 points 8 months ago

Tgese Nuts lmao gottem

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

No? There's a pretty good reason every criminal used telegram. I've never seen any attempts at combatting anonymity much less censorship.

Likely TG got unbanned in Russia for cooperating with LEOs there, but while awful, that doesn't really matter if you're a westerner, even Ukrainian armed forces used it, and for the average substance enjoyer it was still much safer to use than any Five Eyes app due to its intentional highly decentralised complexity, and unlike Signal it actually works and is pleasant to use. Now they are straight up handing data over to British cops.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I thought Signal was the big one?

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago

I have in my life met two people who used signal. They did it because I suggested it. They are both senior cybersec folks.

[+] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

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[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They disabled desktop registration

Huh? Worked for me.

then can randomly ban people who try to make their usage of the platform more private/anonymous...

Telegram literally only banned CSAM.

Then there is censorship, at least here. And I have heard of at least one case of cooperation with German LE, so it's not "untouchable" for Westerners too.

Source? Because they're pretty transparent about it and have only ever banned CSAM. If that's what you mean by "censorship" please KYS

It was never safe with such an approach of "I can close my eyes and pretend the law doesn't apply to me" even in the West

Except that it was, and that's why people used it.

If it was hostile to privacy and anonymity by design

No it wasn't? It was literally the private anonymous messenger and that's why people used it.

it was a matter of time until it became wide open to Western LE too

No it wasn't, or they wouldn't have had to arrest Durov.

The sheer amount of compromate it had on users was a ticking time bomb.

Yeah, but so is every good thing.

"Highly decentralized complexity" - what does that even apply to?

The subject matter at hand - Telegram. It was legally a complex mess of shell companies in weird jurisdictions. That's why the glowies couldn't touch it, the level of international cooperation it would require is far beyond the realistic means of any government. This is why they had to arrest Durov and offer him life in prison or to open up, there was nothing else they could do.

That would apply to Matrix, XMPP, Simplex, especially Briar.

It would if any of these worked, or were used by anyone at all.

Even Signal can technically be selfhosted (whether it is feasible is another question)

I don't want to self-host my criminal messenger, i live deep in five eyes shit.

in Telegram you can't have even that because the server is closed.

I'm fine with that, as long as it's out of the glowies hands, but fella couldn't stay away from the hairy pits I guess

[–] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How is this not bigger news?

[–] lud@lemm.ee 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What more do you want? Fireworks?

[–] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes!

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 12 points 8 months ago