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[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 58 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just in case it wasn't obvious, this is bait. No ABU cards had the tiny copyright text at the bottom, just artist credit.

[–] uniqueid198x@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago

The card stock is also much too thick

[–] SomeoneElse@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I have no idea what this game is. Is the card (if it were real) valuable?

[–] techt@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] SomeoneElse@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It just says “no result found”.

[–] techt@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Strange, works for me. You can get the gist by searching for Black Lotus on that site. tl;dr the rarest versions of it can go for 8k+ USD

[–] SomeoneElse@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Literally not knowing what this game is called definitely meant I required a TL;DR or straight answer! Thank you for that, now I understand the rage bait.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You'll understand it even more when you find out that website is inaccurate, and some black lotuses now go for $150,000 +

[–] SomeoneElseMod@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

Wtf? That’s an insane amount of money!!

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago
[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 39 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Can we just bootleg magic cards and play the game? Or is MTG not fun enough on its own without the collecting part?

[–] eagleth@reddthat.com 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yes. They're called proxies. Some people are fine with it, some aren't. It's not legal in tournaments obviously but some communities/syles like CEDH are fine with it.

[–] balls_expert@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

obviously

It doesn't seem obvious to me how that gives a competitive edge to anyone unless the skills involved are browisng ebay with a lot of money

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It’s obvious if you consider TCG companies literally thrive on selling pieces of paper for far more what they actually cost them. If everyone could just print their own deck no one would buy packs anymore.

[–] jally@lonestarlemmy.mooo.com 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I use chinaprinting4u.com to print my TCG cards, and you can design your tcg card with photoshop or use canva.com

[–] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Where can I print up my own proxies?

[–] HatFullOfSky@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I use proxy.griselbrand.com which works really well IMO

[–] TirelessTracker@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

makeplayingcards.com is a good option. And you can get the images from mpcfill.com

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago

The only games in which Black Lotus is legal is so that those who own an original have a place to play it.

It (and all the big Type A Tourney Guns) gives a considerable edge to whoever draws it, so games are better served by both players just agreeing not to play it.

[–] Fitzsimmons@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago

There are periods in the game's history where various formats were well designed and balanced and thus had a wide degree of viable decks, making the game generally enjoyable to actually play at both a casual and serious level.

Unfortunately practically nobody can agree on when those times actually are.

Draft and seald formats have also been consistenly popular and they completely exclude the collection aspect.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's how I played with my friends who didn't want to buy their own decks. I was only ever interested in the game part, not the collecting part. The game is fun. It's still my favorite card game.

[–] spike@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago

Game itself is a ton of fun. If you and your friends just want to learn the game you can just print out the cards, no problem. Or if you want real^TM^ cards you can get a starter kit with 2*60 card decks for about 10-15$ from your local game store. (Or amazon if you are in a remote area with no Game Stores.) They are not the best decks, but they are balanced to each other and the cards are simple enough for new players to navigate.

Better Magic Cards do mostly 2 or 3 things at once and can combo with others or are just great by themselves. Not that worse Magic Cards can't combo or anything, they just need more setup or can be a bit niche in their usefulness.

[–] DV8@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

When I still actively played and wanted to try new decks easily 10 of my cards were proxies. No point in spending €20 on a rare if it won't make your deck better. The people I tested with did the same. We didn't even bother printing them though. We just wrote the name down and the properties if we didn't know them by heart.

And like others stated there's many formats including ones that even prohibit rare cards.

And before WotC came out with a decent online way to play we also had an online client in which you could import all the cards ever, though I doubt it was superlegal.

[–] Kyoyeou@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Commander is a ton of fun, and it you have a cool group you can proxi some of your cards that's all good. I've personally bought only 3 cards in the last year of playing, I had a lot of fun playing, and I'm impatient to find somewhere where I can play where I am moving

[–] citrusface@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Literally 😂

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is madness! You need to protect this card. My personal tip: use clear packing tape to cover the card and protect it.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I know nothing about the collecting side of things and I have cards from like the second generation or so when I got into it. I am pretty sure I have some Black Lotus cards since I was a fiend for Blacks. Are they extremely rare? All my MTG cards are just loose in a big bin in my closet.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Beta editions of Black Lotus go for about $50,000

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Black Lotus is an artifact. It's colorless.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The card itself has black in the name and therefore my 13 year old self would not have made the distinction.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago

Curiously, very few cards of a color had the color listed in the name. At one point, the only thing that colored a card was the color of the mana required to cast it, or if the color was listed in the rule text.

Some black creatures turned colorless when they hit the table. (Some green cards painted green anything they intereacted with). And blue had some spells that would change other cards swapping out rules targeting colors or land types. So a protection from black could be turned into protection from green or whatever.

One of the seasons got really into color interaction but by then I had gone sober.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Far more exciting to me than seeing an original BL is to see one of the early-nineties runs of counterfeits that were superfakes and were higher quality print and finish than the originals.

I suspect the ones that remain are worth more than authentics.

[–] androogee@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago

I do not suspect that lmao.

[–] spacesweedkid27@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

It's treason then...

[–] WildlyCanadian@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago

This needs to be remade with the 1/1 ring

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Yikes. I bet Post Malone would only pay like $5000 dollars for this one

[–] jildifjortt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I use bookprintingchina.com to print my game card, I start 100 copies for the first order, the quality superior, and the price is cheaper than in USA. They responded to my emails promptly, and all my questions, doubts, and concerns were always clarified.