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[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

American exceptionalism is ingrained so deep in most people here that they would never even consider or doubt why the world pays attention to them, just: "Duh of course they do, because we're America!"

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Correct. I think the entire premise that an American would question this idea is an indication that the meme was made by somebody from a country with one of these pins in it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending this mindset. I am myself an American making this observation with a sense of shame and mild horror.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I abolutely agree. In American culture, this is treated more like a natural law, like the Sun rising each day or objects falling down when dropped. It is just something self-evident and isn't even a thought that occurs in most American's heads.

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[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Going by experience here, the American WILL question this idea the very seconds the foreign has a diverging opinion or calls them out on something.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Americans run around moralizing while exploding everyone. They impose their views and politics into every country on earth. But if you criticized them for being idiots who allowed Trump to win, they tell you "you're not even American!" As if American stupidity doesn't affect the rest of the world. And this is the kind of shit I'm hearing from the American left now the side that was supposed to be smart and reasonable, and you know, not racist or xenophobic. But they've also gone toxic extreme as well. Americans are nuts.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think there should be a major distinction between Democrats/neoliberals/however you want to classify them and "the American left"/progressives.

They often fall under the same tent because progressives do not have another substantial place in American politics, but I think these are 2 different groups with different beliefs and ideas.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

But if you criticized them for being idiots who allowed Trump to win, they tell you "you're not even American!"

Not from me. Anyone who voted for Trump or sat around to let him be elected is a fucking moron.

I learned in 2016 I had too much faith in my fellow citizens. There are many, many stupid people here.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

👋 yep... Tbh, I just never thought through the "their shit is next door" part.. just the "they have a lot of shit" part

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dear Earth,

The U.S. is about to fuck over humanity.

Zero fucks about climate change.

Leadership connections with the worst ass hats on the planet.

I apologize.

I wish y'all the best.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (9 children)
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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Americans: Why don't foreigners care about every aspect of America every second of every day?

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My first thought was to wonder if we'll try to buy Greenland again.

Apparently, some have been pushing that last week already...

Sorry, World. 😑

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the US bought Denmark, they'd probably get Greenland with it. Just saying.

(now some idiot is probably going to try this)

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

In 3 months we're going to have a Secretary of Defense that's on the Fox and Friends B-Team, and a panel of MAGA generals purging the ranks. I am not ruling anything out of the future timeline we're on....

These are some of the same people who don't know who the president of Puerto Rico is, so they might just move in thinking the place is abandoned.

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Comparisons here on Wikipedia, sometimes on the linked page.

[–] jayaura@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The picture is an exaggeration. India DOES NOT allow foreign military bases

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_black_sites

Sri Lanka participated in the US redition process. This image is also rather old. Very likely the Modi government has opened the back door to this shit in the last ten years.

[–] kerrypacker@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah the Aussie presence is in completely the wrong spots too. It's bullshit.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Neither does Pakistan, those are actually super top secret CIA outposts lol

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

America: Establishes military bases, missile silos, CIA blacksites, international espionage agreements to violate the rights of the citizens in dozens of countries, has invaded and overturned governments because they disagree with what the president wants, calls itself the world police.

Americans: "Why are so many non-Americans invested in what goes on in our country? I know we're a big deal, but why would anyone be interested? Must be paid actors and bots! I don't care about French elections, why would they care about American?"

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Putin is gonna pee his pants in glee when his orange tool starts shutting them down

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

To be fair the red balloons shown are much less deadly than American military bases.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I’ve never once wondered this.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Seems like they just hate industrious hard working war mongers. Can't a warlord catch a break?

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This looks like Russian/Chinese propaganda or just lazily photoshopped image.

Actual map of US military bases: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_military_installations#/media/File:American_bases_worldwide.svg

[–] hark@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Americans may be surprised to find that foreigners actually don't pay as much attention to US elections as they think. Even many people in the US don't care, they're just inundated with media coverage of it. At most about 66% of eligible voters even vote and the people that do vote aren't necessarily informed. You may have seen interviews with undecided voters. They turn up to vote but haven't necessarily put much thought into it.

As an aside, I find it funny when Americans scream about other countries empire building and carrying out provocative military exercises when the US has so many military bases everywhere. You don't need to officially annex land to control it, that's old style thinking.

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