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[–] greybeard@lemmy.one 167 points 7 months ago

For those of you who were confused even after reading the comments: (a)(b) basically means a*b. My mind just didn't connect that to the fact that (x-x)=0. in the (a-x)(b-x) stuff is also (x-x) which = 0, and anything * 0 = 0, so no matter the value of literally everything else in the equation, it all equals out to 0 because every single () will get multiplied by (x-x), which is 0. There, hopefully that will clear it up for anyone remaining lost. And like all good jokes, they are always best when you have to explain them.

[–] Saganaki@lemmy.one 86 points 7 months ago (2 children)

For those that struggled like me…

Going from a-z, write out the last three multiplicands.

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 51 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

For those of you who still struggled like me, a multiplicand in this case refers to one of the (n-x) terms.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 3 points 7 months ago

a multiplicand in this case refers to one of the (n-x) terms

Well, that's what was apparently meant, but in fact the correct terminology here is factors. There's only multiplicands (and multipliers) with an explicit multiplication sign. axb - multiplicand a and multiplier b, ab - Term with factors a and b, and a is the coefficient of this Term.

[–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 50 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Even if the x-x term didn't exist, the equation is already simplified (fully factored) so there is nothing to do anyway.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago (10 children)

is already simplified (fully factored)

No it isn't, given one of the factors is equal to zero. That's like saying 2/4 is fully simplified when clearly it isn't. Students lose marks in tests for not simplifying their answers. Writing 2/4 as an answer would only get half-marks. Similarly, the only full-marks answer to this question is 0.

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[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What's the right term then? "Multiplied through?" ? "Complicated?"

[–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Expand

As in "expand and simplify". If you only expanded then you haven't simplified yet.

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[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 46 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Fun fact, omitting the (x-x) zero term and expanding the entire polynomial, you'd get something with 2^25 = 33,554,432 terms. May be slightly excessive!

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Couldn't you combine a lot of like terms as you went along, though? A polynomial of the order x^26^ would only have 27 terms.

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

No, because each coefficient is its own variable; they're not constants.

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Huh, I'm so used to polynomials being in the form ax^2 + bx + c that I never considered that every letter might be a variable.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago

because each coefficient

There's only 1 coefficient - in this case it's (a-x) - the rest are just factors.

they’re not constants

They could be - we haven't been given that information.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago

33,554,432 terms

Actually it would be that many factors. The whole thing is a single Term.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This was impossible to answer prior to 3 BC.

[–] anzo@programming.dev 15 points 7 months ago

Unless you were Mayan. They had a concept of zero, or so I heard. But they lacked the letters, a-z and the parentheses :p

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 35 points 7 months ago (2 children)

0 wasn’t invented yet.

Mesopotamians invented it because year 0 was approaching, so there was a dire need to represent such number.

[–] scapegarced@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago

TIL they had ghost concerts back then

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

0 BCE kind of sucked. Thankfully, they figured it out and 0 CE was awesome.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That’s when the number 0 was introduced in India.

Ah, I forgot zero was so recent.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 64 points 7 months ago (4 children)

0

There’s an (x - x) in there

[–] copd@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Technically there is a (x - 𝑥) in there. U+1D465 != x so this post is a little meh

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Mathematicians do weird stuff to get more letters, but I've never seen anyone use x and 𝑥 for different things

I've never seen anyone use x and 𝑥 for different things

Yeah, me neither. I have had situations where I needed to distinguish between u, v, nu, and upsilon though. I had to be very careful with my handwriting that day...

[–] joshthewaster@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

They also wouldn't want to be ambiguous. If I was trying to write this problem the a, b, c... would get replaced by something like a_1, a_2,..., a_26 to be clearer. This problem works as a fun gotcha but isn't something that would come up in the real world.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

the first variables aren't roman. they're italicized as well. idk where you're getting the x vs x thing.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago

Do do, do do do do do....

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[–] sag@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago
[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 2 points 7 months ago

Now I want pie.

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