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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 68 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Supporting the creators, yeah, because thats what Google built their empire on top of.

Caring about people.

[–] trespasser69@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

Most creaters (even smaller ones) doesn't care about revunue (YT creaters get paid if they're in YPP) loss from adblockers and lm pretty sure YouTubers also use adblock instead of paying Premium

[–] jared@mander.xyz 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If only we could directly support the people we wanted to.... Oh wait.

[–] trespasser69@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well you can actually. For example there is channel memberships.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Prefer Patreon or other means. YT takes 30% of that money, and including bs like processing fees that's more like 36%. Patreon's share is 12%.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And Ko-Fi takes between 0-5%.

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[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Actually the premium user is worth more to creators because a premium user gives them a bigger slice than ad users.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ads have started to straight up break the internet for me. I can go to websites and they'll complain about my ad blocker, and the only help I get is "disable your extensions." I don't even have any extensions! No ad block! But sites still curl up and die on me.

Is it because my browser is hardened? Is it Linux? Do I have to fork over private data to use a site and if I don't they pretend the issue is ad blockers?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well, Google sure is trying to take us in the direction of "you have to log in to Chrome to use the internet".

[–] sfxrlz@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Well let’s see how that goes when chrome is no longer google

[–] SpeedLimit55@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I didn’t use adblockers when they had occasional normal ad breaks. Now when I have to watch on a TV app its just a garbage experience.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] SpeedLimit55@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Yep I know but our main entertainment device is an Apple TV.

[–] Neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

YouTube is a monopoly. The reason no one really uses multiple platforms to upload videos at the same level as YouTube is because it was run for a long time at a loss to push out all competition. I have no simpthy.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 18 points 7 months ago

Ngl, I run Firefox and the usual suite of adblockers and haven't experienced any issues. I do the same on my phone (Firefox in "desktop mode").

[–] LittleTarsier@lemmy.ca 15 points 7 months ago

Subscribe to Nebula instead.

[–] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I"m just going to watch youtube less.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

Why paying for no longer having an ad free experience, if you can have a really ad free YouTube for free?

[–] obscur_e@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago

Newpipe!!!!

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

smarttube.app

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I ended up paying for it because, frankly, expecting Youtube to be completely free and fighting how it could be paid for is kinda crazy. We’re just used to it being free but running Youtube is expensive. I watch hours of Youtube nearly every day and don’t use Crunchyroll nearly as much so why am I ok paying for that but not Youtube?

Yes, if they do actually start pushing ads then I’m going to wonder what the hell I’m paying for but for the time being I’m ok with paying for a service. I only started paying for it recently, to be fair, but I get it.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (16 children)

It depends how many hours per month you use it I guess.

I am fine paying for Netflix (it is quite cheap here as well) which I watch probably at least 20-30 hours per month but not for youtube which I use for the music maybe an hour per week or less.

YouTube frequency of commercials is unacceptable. If they were to play a commercial every half an hour or so, I would say it is too often but I would understand it.

They don't, they try to play a commercial every other song start, so every 7-10 minutes. They are taking a piss.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 7 months ago

At the end of the day, Google is just going to double dip and take your money, and still sell your data.

They are, first and foremost, an ad company. Their money maker is the data they get from you; your viewing habits and whatever they can scrape from your computer.

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[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago (5 children)

If you want YouTube to keep existing, you should pay for it. That's why I use adblocker.

[–] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

So you don't want a free place to upload videos? .. why? Is it just because it's Google or too big or why?

I love the idea of a free place to upload videos, I just wish there was a way without as many ads or with a cheaper ad free prem.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Give an inch, they take a mile

Instead of trying to make money, they should be looking at how to operate without it

Peertube is an example of figuring this out

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How to operate without money? Hosting countless hours of high-quality video on demand and streaming it to your computer at highspeed? Are you high?

I had never heard of Peertube before your comment and it sounds great! It also puts a lot on the content creator, though, and regardless of whether Youtube should follow that model or not how would you expect them to make that change? Just suddenly tell every creator that they must start self-hosting? Genius, that’ll go over so well!

Peertube themselves are saying that they don’t want to replace Youtube, simply to offer alternatives and choice(which I’m cool with).

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago

The transition would be saving videos users watch on their devices not just creators

However it’s just one path, if Google’s engineers find a better solution then they can do that.

[–] obscur_e@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I still didn't get why you paid

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[–] howsetheraven@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

On firefox I've been occasionally seeing ads leak into videos lately but refreshing usually fixes it.

[–] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

Google can suck the shit directly from my asshole Human Centipede style if they think I'm ever going to pay them for.not using their monopoly to harass me. When I can no longer feasibly block ads on YouTube, I'll just move to another platform. Thank goodness they're about to lose Chrome because otherwise they'd soon be injecting ads directly through the browser just like they do in their shitty news app.

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