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This is a genuine question.

I have a hard time with this. My righteous side wants him to face an appropriate sentence, but my pessimistic side thinks this might have set a great example for CEOs to always maintain a level of humanity or face unforseen consequences.

P.S. this topic is highly controversial and I want actual opinions so let's be civil.

And if you're a mod, delete this if the post is inappropriate or if it gets too heated.

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[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, but I hope someone makes him a cool cape or something of the sorts.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

With "The Adjuster" embroidered across the back

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[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Yes. Jury nullification is my right.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If they ever set up a GoFundMe to set up a memorial statue of the killer, just give a shout.

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[–] Shotgun_Alice@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If I was in the jury I could be persuaded to push for jury nullification.

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[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

I'd say it will be nearly impossible to get an objective jury that also represents the defendants peers.

[–] davidfield@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (6 children)

For the social agreement society has, it's irrelevant if you think this person is a hero or a villain, they need to be tried by a jury of their peers in a court of law.

If they are not, then the social agreement that we don't go around murdering people, no matter the intent changes and life becomes very difficult.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (7 children)

That social agreement had been broken long ago by the elites like the one recently targeted. It's funny that only now when someone finally responds in kind that it is suddenly so important.

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[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 12 points 10 months ago

What murderer? He fell on lead because he was high on prescription drugs.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

but my pessimistic side thinks this might have set a great example for CEOs to always maintain a level of humanity or face unforseen consequences.

To maybe help your pessimistic side:

Even when the murderer gets convicted, that CEO will still remain dead.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Prosecution is required since otherwise it would set a precedent for revenge killings, but holy shit even serial killers did less harm than this one person

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 months ago

No. Fuck no

But unfortunately if he is caught, the pigs on the payroll will cut him down to avoid any trial or the tape. The elite will want to make an example out of him to prevent others from acting out

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Yes. He murdered someone. Will I curl up in a ball and cry for hours if he's never caught? Not so much.

[–] BJHanssen@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

If he gets caught (hope he doesn’t), I hope he gets prosecuted, pleads self defense, and wins.

Because let’s be honest, this is 100% a case of community self defense.

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

If he's found, the jury should nullify. It's their right as US citizens.

[–] ButtKiss@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 months ago
[–] Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 10 months ago

Nah he was defending himself against highway robbery.

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How do we get him to do it again?

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yes, of course. Then face a jury. And hopefully go free via jury nullification.

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[–] Bread@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago

I am under the belief that there was no murder and he had a preexisting condition of lead poisoning. As such, we unfortunately do not cover these kinds of conditions in our penal system and his claim must be denied.

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Jury nullification would be nice.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone

Or something

The ceo was a bad dude,

But murdering people isn’t cool.

Trump said he could murder a guy on Fifth Avenue,

Maybe this guy can murder a guy on Sixth Avenue.

🤷‍♂️

Edit: if he is some crazy cereal killer then I guess he has to get away with it the first time?

[–] Trilobite@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

If I was on the jury it would be a not guilty from me

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 10 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Yes.

Even in a unjust world mob justice isn't justice. This means a mob deciding someone is guilty and acting out punishment is unjust. But also a mob deciding a crime should go unpunished is unjust.

There's plenty wrong with how insurance works and plenty wrong with the justice system. But instead of giving up, we should be trying to fix these issues. It's all to easy to give in to our basic instincts and point to someone to blame. We punish them instead of fixing the issues. Killing one ceo might feel good, but it doesn't really change the big picture and in fact constitutes layer upon layer of failure. We should be better than that. History is full of people (singular and groups) being used as a scape goat to deflect and feel like something is being done, whilst in fact not actually fixing anything and just feeding hate.

Also in a capitalist world, the people with the most money have the most power. If we collectively decide it's open warfare, purge style distopia, they are going to have the upper hand. So purely from a self interest point of view, it would be better to work on fixing shit instead of reverting to monke.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

Don't give a shit if he's prosecuted for it, I'd be a bit pissed if a jury convicts him.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Yes.

Not because I think what he did was wrong, but because I want his motives to go on record and possibly have a jury nullification, as although it is illegal to murder people; we have fostered a world where people might be driven to do this due to corporate greed.

Edit: It should be noted that I have consumed hundreds of articles on this topic, watched countless videos, and browsed thousands of threads online. I am yet to see a substantial amount of people condemning this action. Which speaks volumes that everybody is united in thinking this is fine and we have no issue with it.

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[–] roofTophopper@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out and how long it goes on for. I feel like every other shooting, even school shootings these days get the "thoughts and prayers" treatment. Then it's onto the next news at six and who won last night's game.

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