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Police questioning a man in Pennsylvania in connection with killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO, law enforcement officials say (www.cnn.com)
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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 115 points 6 months ago (3 children)

A partial fingerprint and DNA recovered during the search have so far not yielded matches when compared against law enforcement databases, according to a law enforcement official

This got rushed....

Meanwhile the NYPD specifically and law enforcement in general has a massive backlog of untested rape kits they can't even quantify because they're spread out in hospital closets all over the place without even a comprehensive index.

The fact that NYPD is fast tracking this is exactly why everyone hates law enforcement.

There's a different set of rules for the wealthy than everyone else, and a different set of punishments.

Anytime a wealthy person is the criminal it takes years (if ever) to see a court date. If the victim is a wealthy person everything else gets thrown out the window.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 45 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And if it's a corporation killing people, their environment, or their way of life, then it's maybe a small fine already baked into their budget and a promise to "do better".

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I feel Perdue execs should have gotten 100k or so murder charges, but here we are.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 2 points 6 months ago

Or Exxon who made a ton of promises they knew they couldn't keep, and then had the Valdez spill that decimated a whole community and then some.

Exxon Valdez oil spill

Exxon denial -

"We've done 350 peer-reviewed studies of Prince William Sound, and those studies conclude that Prince William Sound has recovered, it's healthy and it's thriving."

From 2014 (25yrs later) -

Federal scientists estimate that between 16,000 and 21,000 US gallons (61 to 79 m3) of oil remains on beaches in Prince William Sound and up to 450 miles (725 km) away. Some of the oil does not appear to have biodegraded at all. A USGS scientist who analyses the remaining oil along the coastline states that it remains among rocks and between tide marks. "The oil mixes with seawater and forms an emulsion...Left out, the surface crusts over but the inside still has the consistency of mayonnaise – or mousse."

-Source

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If the guy had raped the CEO first, do you think they'd suddenly fly through all those rape kits?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, they'd skip everyone in the backlog and do the wealthy person's....

The difference isn't the crime, it's the social standing of the victim.

Like, there's been other murders in NYC, which would have also left this kind of evidence, they don't check those either.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I guess I was thinking those rape kits might help solve that hypothetical case but I suppose not.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

No worries, when they're brought up a common complaint is there could very likely be a fraction of rapists as there are victims.

Because serial rapists are a thing, and the open knowledge that cops don't care about them unless the victim is high social standing means they're likely to keep doing it.

But that still doesn't get cops to look at a backlog in those few cases to see if there's matches. People that habitually prey on others know that if you target the rich, the cops actually try. So with a high profile victim, it's more likely to be staged as random crime of opportunity as to really be random.

If you look back on serial killers/rapists that were caught, it's pretty common for them to be caught because one of their victims was from "middle class" or higher, and the vast majority of victims were from disadvantaged communities.

So there's a lot going on with the topic.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

In for a penny, in for a pound: maybe he'll "slip up" and imply that he's a serial rapist, then refuse to answer any further questions about it. Make them search the evidence.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 6 months ago

That video would be uploaded on pornhub and many straight man might find it interesting

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[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Working off of a tip, police stopped a person traveling by bus and recovered a suppressor and a number of false IDs, one of the officials added.

Snitches get stitches

But also, if this is the guy, the moment they release his name it's gonna become memorialized

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

A GoFundMe for legal defense would break the interenet, and I gotta feel like this guy knows that...

Also, for anyone wondering why he'd ditch a gun and save a suppressor, it's because suppressors are federally registered. In many states a gun can show up and be connected to a crime, and they can just say it was sold to someone and they do t remember/know the buyers name.

A silencer has accountability and would need a paper trail showing a transfer of ownership.

Edit:

Apparently other sources say he had the fun too:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-questioned-pennsylvania-similar-gun-used-unitedhealthcare-ceo-shoo-rcna183443

But still, it's crazy we dont have a federal gun registry and not all states have them either.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't have a wealth of gun knowledge, but I read at least one report right after the shooting naming the type of pistol and why suspect chose it (because it had a long barrel that worked as a suppressor without having to attach/buy one). It even stated that because of the obscurity of the pistol it would 1) narrow down the amount of people owning one 2) would likely be someone with a good knowledge of firearms and well thoughout plan.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (12 children)

There's the "Welrod" which is WW2 era and at least one modern replica produced today.

Those are designed to be as quite as possible, and require each round to be manually loaded by rotating the back of the gun. Like, its comparable maybe even quieter than shutting a car door.

But it definitely wasn't what was used in the video.

Also, I just saw another article that says he still had the gun too.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-questioned-pennsylvania-similar-gun-used-unitedhealthcare-ceo-shoo-rcna183443

So, slightly conflicting info from different sources on what he had

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[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

But I don't want the gubernment to have a registry showing my five guns that I constantly describe in detail to everyone and photograph regularly for lib-owning Christmas cards on social media. If there were a registry, they could use that information to send more of their government-manned guns against me, a single person with fewer hands than I have guns. Can't you see that this unreasonably risky lapse in information is all about MY safety???

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

The handwritten manifesto found on the person of the man detained in Altoona criticized health care companies for putting profits above care, according to a senior law enforcement official.

The man who was detained at McDonald’s showed the police the same fake New Jersey identification that the man believed to be the gunman presented when he checked into a hostel on the Upper West Side of Manhattan on Nov. 24, a senior law enforcement official said.

Oh shit it’s him.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/09/nyregion/uhc-ceo-murder-suspect?referringSource=articleShare

[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If he didn't ditch the gun, fake ID's, and a smoking gun manifesto, this guy isn't that bright.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Either a copy cat or a diversion IMHO

Watch him having a strong albi like being at work that AM

[–] halfsak@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

NYPD probably found the gun and id's in the backpack found in central park and planted it on this guy so they could claim victory

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 6 months ago

I mean that's about how I expect a generic cop to do investigation

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The gun with a silencer and the ID are going to net him a couple of years regardless. No one would risk that just as a diversion.

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[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

the same fake new jersy identification

You fool!

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

News on NYC TV says that NYC cops and district attorneys are making all speed to Altoona. When you get the DA out of his office....

[–] shani66@ani.social 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I hope the snitch gets found out too

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 16 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Why keep all that evidence on him?

Do everything like a pro but botch last leg?

[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What was pro about this?

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 months ago

Dang. If I were to do something like this I would totally not show up anywhere I wouldn't usually go for 2 weeks.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

All he needs to do is run for President.

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 7 points 6 months ago

With the stakes being what they've now become, does it matter if they truly found the guy or can prove it was him?

Most importantly who will accept any alternative truth posed about the situation?

[–] sweetviolentblush@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Welp, they announced the suspect. Luigi Mangione, 26. Here is his possible twitter. The eyebrows seem to match 😔

https://twitter.com/PepMangione

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

I don't know if a healthcare CEO assassin eating at McDonalds lines up.

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