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Device uses movement of ions to generate airflow without any moving parts like in iPads and MacBook Air.

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[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 86 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Counterpoint: stop trying to make laptops thinner and implement realistic and functional air cooling

[–] socsa@piefed.social 71 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Passive cooling is generally better for reliability if you can make it work, since all active airflow systems will degrade as dust and hair works into the airflow paths.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 5 months ago

Plus, the two can be used in combination. Improved passive cooling systems will make active cooling better by reducing the need to run the active system all the time, or at least run it at reduced rates, which will make the whole system last longer and reduce maintenance.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 4 points 5 months ago

But this system still makes airflow right? Just without moving parts.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 42 points 5 months ago

Or we innovate 🤷

It isn't a given that every device needs a fan anymore. For example non intel MacBook air.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Make the chassis out of aluminium so the whole bastard is a heatsink.

[–] ultrafastsloth@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Slaps roof of laptop This bastard can cook so many egg omelettes

[–] Feyr@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Two eggs and one sausage

[–] Belgdore@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

Apple has been doing that for years

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[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

They already do. My thinkpad T14s is incredibly thin, and it can dissipate ~~400~~ 40 watts of power. My P1 dissipates 160+ watts and it’s also very thin.

[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

T14s

You mean 40W? Can't imagine a T config that'd do 400.

Yes, single zero. 400w would indeed be VERY impressive.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

This bad boy can do so much ~~crypto~~ AI

[–] UnityDevice@startrek.website 4 points 5 months ago

Well there's no shortage of those, and they're unusually cheaper too (unless they're specced out). I prefer a thin silent one myself, so I welcome this innovation.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 62 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Speaking from experience here, and limited information from the company, this looks like a polished version of a high-voltage grid accelerator.

https://ventiva.com/how-it-works/

What can be an expected concern is that besides ionizing air and imparting motion to neutral air molecules as the ionized ones rush from one plate to the other, that same effect can and will charge dust particles. That "collector plate" will need to be easily accessible.

Sound familiar?

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Appreciate the link. I've got a hand-me-down Ionic in my house, and knowing that I can skip running it for basically the same effect means I can save a couple of cents on my electricity bill.

Gonna take another look at those IKEA tables with the HEPA filters built in. Those seem handy to avoid having to dust so often.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Sure thing, glad to be of some kinda help. Ozone can be a good irritant, never mind charged dust sticking to stuff it ordinarily wouldn't.

I hope this company has a trick for dust control, but I'm expecting that'd be tougher than figuring out the ionic wind part.

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] dan@upvote.au 12 points 5 months ago

That's correct.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago
[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think Dave2D made a video about those. He was cautiously optimistic.

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[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't an ionic air moving system like this put out a big ass EM field?

Im a fabricator who don't fuck with the lecky, but maybe someone more educated than me can explain why this doesn't wipe your memory every time the cooling kicks on

[–] Flyingpeakock@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The "fan" sits inside a faraday cage.

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I want to put one in a Valve Steamdeck.

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[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago

I'm more excited about those Frore MEMS airjet chips.

That's actually in at least one consumer product right now.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Is this the same way those bladeless Dyson fans work?

[–] dabaldeagul@feddit.nl 67 points 5 months ago (22 children)

Bladeless Dyson's have the fans hidden, as far as I know. But they still have a bladed fan in there.

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[–] Bezier@suppo.fi 33 points 5 months ago

They aren't actually bladeless. The fan is just hidden in the base.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 5 months ago

Those things have a fan with blades, just stuck in the base.

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[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 months ago

I see what they did there with the "ICE9" name.

If it works, it sounds like it'd be something meant for a future Steam Deck to experiment with.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So my take away from all of this is that this is a laptop that can propel itself around in space. Pretty neat.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sadly, there would be no reaction mass.

All that would happen is the lcd panel would boil and crack, and the processor would overheat soon after because nothing is carrying away the heat.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 5 months ago

Nah, it can use all the dust and bits of carpet fluff. It's magical stuff carpet fluff, it's always a different color to any color you actually have as a carpet.

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